Hi everyone.

I had a question on what to use for minimizing spontaneous erections. They are rather troublesome when they happen and are down right embarrassing. I have been using a gaff the last few days but it only helps so much. Someone suggested to take Depo-Provera but I am not sure if it will give me what I want. I want to stop having random erection problems [limp] but I do not want my feminization to slow down by taking something. If anyone could suggest me something to take for minimizing erections and increasing feminization I will really appreciate it!. Thank you ^^.

fami (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:07 pm Hi everyone.

I had a question on what to use for minimizing spontaneous erections. They are rather troublesome when they happen and are down right embarrassing. I have been using a gaff the last few days but it only helps so much. Someone suggested to take Depo-Provera but I am not sure if it will give me what I want. I want to stop having random erection problems [limp] but I do not want my feminization to slow down by taking something. If anyone could suggest me something to take for minimizing erections and increasing feminization I will really appreciate it!. Thank you ^^.

Go for the Depo-Provera. In just two weeks the erections have slowed down immensely. My thoughts are now under control.

Studlover

Studlover (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:01 am Go for the Depo-Provera. In just two weeks the erections have slowed down immensely. My thoughts are now under control.

Studlover

Thank you for your imput studlover.

I have been reading through this medical resource document online at Trans Gender Care (http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/ ... gram_5.asp) The document is pretty resourcefull I'd suggest taking a look at it ^ - ^. It does mention taking Provera as a progestin, though I am not sure if provera and depo-provera perform the same thing; I am not sure if they are the same product just with a slight change to the name!. Should I be looking for Provera or Depo-Provera? x. x. Any input on this will be appreciate it ^^. Sorry for all the questions I am just so curious =3.

It also mentions using anti-androgen to help the demasculinisation proccess by taking Spironolactone (Aldactone), how does that sound?. Some comments on this will also be happily welcomed ^^.

fami (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:08 am Thank you for your imput studlover.

I have been reading through this medical resource document online at Trans Gender Care (http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/ ... gram_5.asp) The document is pretty resourcefull I'd suggest taking a look at it ^ - ^. It does mention taking Provera as a progestin, though I am not sure if provera and depo-provera perform the same thing; I am not sure if they are the same product just with a slight change to the name!. Should I be looking for Provera or Depo-Provera? x. x. Any input on this will be appreciate it ^^. Sorry for all the questions I am just so curious =3.

It also mentions using anti-androgen to help the demasculinisation proccess by taking Spironolactone (Aldactone), how does that sound?. Some comments on this will also be happily welcomed ^^.

By no means am I a medical expert. I only go by what I can read and understand reading about the meds. My understanding is that Provera (I think) is tablet which is not nearly as powerful as Depo-Provera (I stand to be corrected by members of the EA).

Depo-Provera is given to sex offenders but extremely high dosages which in *my* opinion could be unsafe.

Personally, I chose Depo-Provera after extensive research and am happy with the results. Taking tablets I tend to forget about and with shot you know you did it.

Studlover

fami (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:08 am It also mentions using anti-androgen to help the demasculinisation process by taking Spironolactone (Aldactone), how does that sound?. Some comments on this will also be happily welcomed.

fami,

Are you under a doctor's care? If not, you should be.

As I understand it, Spironolactone is a routine part of MtF hormone therapy. Surprised you aren't taking it. That could solve your problems with spontaneous erections.

If you are planning on transitioning, you should start following the Harry Benjamin Standards of Care by getting some gender therapy. Why? Because you may hit some bumps in the road and quit prematurely, only to regret it years later and start transitioning again. Do it right the first time.

From one who cares, and just started transtioning herself,

Terri

fami,

bryan (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:24 am Are you under a doctor's care? If not, you should be.

As I understand it, Spironolactone is a routine part of MtF hormone therapy. Surprised you aren't taking it. That could solve your problems with spontaneous erections.

If you are planning on transitioning, you should start following the Harry Benjamin Standards of Care by getting some gender therapy. Why? Because you may hit some bumps in the road and quit prematurely, only to regret it years later and start transitioning again. Do it right the first time.

From one who cares, and just started transtioning herself,

Terri

Just my own experience, spirono isnt really That effective. It is, if I were to be preoccupied with other things but if there is not the urge still sets in.

I used to take 25mg once per 3 days, now switched to once per 2. Perhaps I shld make it 1ce per day.

IMHO

thepenectomised (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:06 pm Just my own experience, spirono isnt really That effective. It is, if I were to be preoccupied with other things but if there is not the urge still sets in.

I used to take 25mg once per 3 days, now switched to once per 2. Perhaps I shld make it 1ce per day.

IMHO25 mg of Spironolactone is not going to do much of anything for you. The usual dosage for M2F is 200 mg per day, and it does work at that level.

Sorry for the long wait I just never had a chance to get on my pc and check the forum.

Terri what kind of bumps were you talking about?. I am currently scheduled for a doctor's appointment and I am very excited about it!. Most of my life I always felt like a female deep inside. I never felt very masculine concerning my thoughts. I hanged out with other guys but was always a softie!. My feelings have always been very feminine along with my likes and dislikes.

For the past 8 months I have been trying out Evanesce and feminol which are non-prescription, Herbal-Estrogen capsules and are very safe from what I hear. I wanted to try a herbal routine first to see whatever changes would take place and then decide if I liked them or not. I have to say that my happiness tripled. I just felt so good deep inside and so calm, I never felt like that before. Then I noticed my figure became more feminine and I realized how much I really enjoyed my transformation.

After experiencing all of that I then decided that I owned it to myself to change ^-^. I really am happy and I just cannot wait ! but I know I have to, I must not rush things. I want it all to be perfect =3.

Thank you all for all the input ^^ it really shows that you all care.

W

fami (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:47 am hat kind of bumps were you talking about?. I am currently scheduled for a doctor's appointment and I am very excited about it!

Fami,

Some bumps in the road you may encounter:

- Relatives who tell you you will never be a woman.

- Doubts of your own.

- Guilt/shame (you must work thru matters of conscience before going very far).

- Early efforts at going out in public which turn out horribly discouraging because of people's meanness.

- Ignorant doctors who don't know about TG stuff and think anti-depressants are a cure-all.

- And if you get far enough along, employment or presentation on the job may become an issue.

A gender therapist can help you navigate these choppy waters.

Above all, you need to figure out your gender identity. Merely wanting to be female probably isn't be enough to drive a successful transition, for you would feel like a man in a dress. But if you can arrive at fairly solid conclusion you are female inside, then transition is simply a matter of bringing the exterior into conformance with the interior. Plus you will have the boldness which comes with knowing truth is on your side.

I've heard herbal stuff is weak, too weak for feminization, so any physical changes may be in your mind -- not sure. But your positive mental/emotional response is a sign that you are on to something: namely, unlocking/unmasking your transgendering. It's not a "fun" discovery, but better than having one's gender issues remain a convoluted mystery.

Hoping your doctor is knowledgeable and sympathetic,

Terri

Fami,

bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 am Some bumps in the road you may encounter:

- Relatives who tell you you will never be a woman.

- Doubts of your own.

- Guilt/shame (you must work thru matters of conscience before going very far).

- Early efforts at going out in public which turn out horribly discouraging because of people's meanness.

- Ignorant doctors who don't know about TG stuff and think anti-depressants are a cure-all.

- And if you get far enough along, employment or presentation on the job may become an issue.

A gender therapist can help you navigate these choppy waters.

Above all, you need to figure out your gender identity. Merely wanting to be female probably isn't be enough to drive a successful transition, for you would feel like a man in a dress. But if you can arrive at fairly solid conclusion you are female inside, then transition is simply a matter of bringing the exterior into conformance with the interior. Plus you will have the boldness which comes with knowing truth is on your side.

I've heard herbal stuff is weak, too weak for feminization, so any physical changes may be in your mind -- not sure. But your positive mental/emotional response is a sign that you are on to something: namely, unlocking/unmasking your transgendering. It's not a "fun" discovery, but better than having one's gender issues remain a convoluted mystery.

Hoping your doctor is knowledgeable and sympathetic,

Terri

- Relatives who tell you you will never be a woman.

Well in a way I know that I will never be a "Woman", as in a genetic female. I know I will be missing some critical components that are unique to a genetic female [Organs and other things]. I have thought about this and it does not bother me a great deal. One thing about me is that I am not aiming to seeing myself, as in my mental / physical image, as a true woman. I mean, I was born a male, i realize that and that is something I cannot change. Even though my body will change, along with parts of my way of thought, I will still remain who I am. It's not like I have not told anyone else about this and not had rejections and negative responses; I have ^ - ^ and let me tell you something, it was tough to deal with!. Really though!.

It made me sad deep inside but I realized something else.

Some of those things that people told me were from some people who did not care at all for me. Even if I am not going to become truly feminine it does not mean I will be depressed, I have taken that in to consideration. I am just not picky, I take what it is available to me. For me, it will not be the end of the world if for some odd reason things do not work out, this is not my world, it does not mean it will be destroyed, I look to other things in life as well; One thing being my pets! ^__^ I love my pets! and I love my mother!, she is very understanding, I am blessed =3.

- Doubts of your own.

I will be honest ^^ it is not like I have no doubts from time to time, I do but I have thought about them and have figured out a response. Like for example.. sometimes I think that I will have no one to be with; Like no one will accept me. Then I realize that I know that people that have/will. I expect some rejection to a change like this ^^ since it is a big change. Even if I were to not find someone to "Be with" I would not mind that. I am content with what I have and I am happy to have friends that actually understand me.

Sometimes I think that even if I change physically, some people will still regard me as a male. To be honest, I do not care what other people think ^^. I am just not doing it for them, I am doing it for myself, for my sanity, for my joy, and for my piece of mind. People can be mean, I know this for a fact!, many are extremely narrow minded and those people I do not care for, I will help them if they ask me for help but other than that I do not care for them, as in I do not care what they say, honestly I don't ^^.

bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 am - Guilt/shame (you must work thru matters of conscience before going very far).

Guilt.. why would I feel guilty?. Why would I feel guilty of changing the image that I am?. I am who I am and I belong to myself o . O I do not belong to others. What I do with my body is my choice and mine alone. I do this for my well being and piece of mind mainly ^^. I just do not understand why I would feel guilty by doing this, any elaboration on this comment will be greatly welcomed!. If it is something that has to do with what the church thinks about TGs then I do not really care x. x; Don't get me wrong I am grateful for what God has done for us and given us all but I am not a very deep church going person x.x; Not sure what else to say here.. sorry!.

Shame.. Hmm!. Feel shame for what I am doing. Mmmm.. I do not really know why I would feel shame. Shame about my body? well I am not perfect! nor is everybody lol. Shame for the thoughts I think? errr.. there are people out there that think VERY scary thoughts.. o . o.. Very scary.. I think something like this is not very shameful.. like there are people out there who dream about having sex with children O__O..! That can be called shameful.. like, they are children for god's sake x . x .. Why would you do such a thing?. It would be a very traumatizing experience for a child !. That is just one example I am pretty sure there are better ones out there but Shame, I just do not see it, at least not for my transformation =|. Oh but feeling shame because of how "Greedy" I am in to wanting to be a female, yeah! Shame on me!. Bad Fami!, you are bad! -Smack's hand- [Sarcasm] Yep, I am very selfish and greedy on that matter =o I want to do it, I really do.

bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 am Early efforts at going out in public which turn out horribly discouraging because of people's meanness.

If I were going out It would not be to show off for people, I am not doing it for them. I really do not care what they think, honestly. I have seen how narrow minded people are, how mean they are, how racist they are, how much they do not care and how self centered and "Smart" they are. Seriously if I were to go out I would just go out to do whatever it is that I have to do. I am not going out to expect people's opinions lol. If I were to do that everyday, even as I am now as a guy, it would turn out terrible lol. People are just mean, most are, though I know there are some meaningful exceptions and I have to say that people who are nice and understanding rule and are great!. I do not care what people think =[ I do not. It is not like I am expecting to be a super model female or something lol!. I know that for a fact I will not be like superrrrrrr pretty o .o ; but hey I do not mind, I have thought about it. I am not doing this for the looks O__O i am doing this so I can feel at ease deep inside my mind, that is why; Definitely NOT for the looks ^^ it's not like I am a sexy hunk right now =p I do not expect such things.

bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 am - Ignorant doctors who don't know about TG stuff and think anti-depressants are a cure-all.

Eeek! now that is scary!. Having to battle a doctor day to day will be frustrating. Like I am looking toward the doctor as someone who does what he does for the good of the people, however I have known some that are selfish and so self centered it is scary!; They want things their way or the high way!, Eeek!. Oh well lol at least the good thing about me is that I love to chat with people about things, all things, anything!. I am a little chatter box! I would not mind going at with the doctor everyday!. Actually o . O, finding out what he thinks about all of this will be VERY interesting =o, you learn so many new things everyday, it is just so wonderful! even if the things you learn are scary, sad, and depressing =| with some noticeable exceptions ;o.

bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 am - And if you get far enough along, employment or presentation on the job may become an issue.

Hmm yeah this one might be a toughie though I hate working for big companies x. x. I want to start my own business somehow! someday!. I am thinking on buying a small lot of apartments, if possible, and just try to rent them =o I hear that you can make good money that way with out much effort ;o. If I have to dress up as a male for work then oh well, I guess I will do it. I have been doing it this whole time and it has not been a crazy issue for me. I think i can cope with it, I do not want to frighten people.. o o;. I know some people who do not understand things like these can be easily "frightened" by such thoughts and actions.

bryan (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 am I've heard herbal stuff is weak, too weak for feminization, so any physical changes may be in your mind -- not sure. But your positive mental/emotional response is a sign that you are on to something: namely, unlocking/unmasking your transgendering. It's not a "fun" discovery, but better than having one's gender issues remain a convoluted mystery.

Yep herbs are weak. They are nowhere nearly as potent as actual Hormone Regimens for Transgendering.. > . >. I know this because recently in the last two months I have been trying out Estraderm TTS 25mcg T - T; Sorry ! I just had to try it x . x it was so tempting after what I noticed with herbs.. I did notice Changes with herbs!. My boobies did get a tiny bit bigger x. x my areola did get a little bigger. The sensation in which I felt things changed. Some fat was redistributed to my butt and hips but.. Let's just say that in these last two months by using the patch it looked like whatever changes I had with herbs over the last few months took place again in only two it was awesome! ^- ^... I want more now =|..

Sorry, I know it's a long one but I just thought I'd clear somethings up ^- ^.