Hi

I know this isn't quite the right board to post into with this issue but I wouldn't know where to do it instead (alt.eunuchs.questions didnt help either).

I'm looking for a surgeon to perform a urethral relocation on me.

Actually its a small incision into the urethra between the scortum

and the anus. As a result of this urine and sperm would leave my

body through this new hole and I would have to sit while peeing.

Since it is prohibited for any official doc to do this kind of

surgery with no medical reason, I'm looking for somebody who

has enogh experience to be able to perform this on me.

Preferably I'd like to have a high chance of surviving the operation

Since I'm from Germany it would have to be either here or in

close neighbourhood.

Chris

Have you tried asking the SRS surgeons in Thailand?

I never really intended to go to Thailand for this

tiny surgery. There's gotta be someone to do it

over here in Europe.

If everything goes wrong, I'll have to do it myself

which of course is something that I would like to

prevent.

Chris

Hi All,

Chriskay may be on to something.

Provided you close the end of the penis a urethral relocation would have thefollowing important advantages:

1. It would be a reliable contraceptive measure. You could still bring about conception by collecting the ejaculate and manually inserting it in the appropriate repository.

2. There would be no transmission of hiv.

In fact the penis would become a pleasure organ, as the clitoris already is.

There may be some problems with 'leakage' of urine so you would have to use a panty liner until you learnt full control.

Sitting down to pee is no big deal. Half of the world's population copes with that quite easily several times a day.

I suggest that Chriskay approach a Marie Stope's clinic and ask them about it. They should at least give a sympathetic hearing.

Kortpeel

The more I read this post, the more I like the idea of getting this done. Sounds like a very good mod to me. Now if only there were more people into this. Or at least more people capable of doing it.

So, in addition to Europe, how about someone half a world away who can do this? Say near Vancouver or its environs? Wouldn't have to be a surgeon, just someone with some fair skill with this type of procedure.

IEunuch.

(Too bad there's no "School of Male Genital Modification". I'd register there in a heartbeat.)

It is a dangerous LIE to tell urethral relocation prevents contamination with HIV !!!

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vesal (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:36 am It is a dangerous LIE to tell urethral relocation prevents contamination with HIV

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Yeah, perhaps I overstated the position. However hiv is transmitted by bodily fluids so if there is no interchange of bodily fluids you can enjoy that lovely skin on skin contact in safety.

Last I heard, hiv is not transmitted through unbroken skin.

Of course if your prick is all scabby and oozing pus you are a danger to all concerned. In that case a penectomy would be the socially responsible thing to do.

Regards

Kortpeel

Kortpeel,

The problem is that the skin on the penis is actually quite delicate.

Although you may start out with no lesions there is no guarantee that one will not start during sex. Bare-backing is fine provided that you are sure of your partner, in which case urethral relocation is not necessary.

One problem which is much more common with a short urethra is 'urinary tract infection'. This is often caused by careless cleaning after defecation and is very common in elderly ladies. Given that most urethral relocations end up very near the anus this becomes even more of a danger.

LOL

HIV can only be caught generally by two main body fuids the first being Blood and the second being male cum so unless there is a serious amount of blood in any other bodily fluid then you are safe so fo all those into water sports that has been proved to be perfectly safe unless the person is passing blood int here urine in which case they shouldn't be participating anyway.

Unless you trust your partner 1000% if you are a gay male you should allways use protection and way for anal penetration.

Well enough of me ranting but i feel that HIV is still misunderstood as a disease and how it can be contracted

This is not entirely true. HIV is present in all bodily fluids, including sweat, spit and urine. All of those happen to contain things that kill it, and so are fairly safe for things like french kissing and watersports, however, spit does sometime contain small amounts of blood (through microscopic cuts on the inside of your mouth) and active HIV has been detected in samples of spit before.

As for HIV being transmitted through unbroken skin, there are actually two cases I'm aware of. One was a very old couple who had not had sex in many years, but the husband (who had had an infected blood transfusion) gave it to his wife through hugging and fondling. A similar case occurred in Italy where a boy caught it from his brother. Both were pre-puberty and the older brother had been infected via transfustion, same as the old people. Both of these occurred in the first half of the nineties; I can't cite a source for sure but I think it was in JAMA. Such cases are exceptionally rare; those are the only two I'm aware of. In both cases doctors theorized that it was transmitted through microscopic cuts in the skin, which everybody has all the time - you get them when you scratch or bump into something.

As for transmitting it through the penis, it is possible, although difficult. Having a FULLY HEALED urethral relocation with a somehow-stopped up penis, and with no lesions or other cuts in place, would probably provide similar protected to an unbreakable condom, with the caveat of the microscopic laceration problem.

Basically, AIDS prevention is not a good reason to do this, but there are a number of other good ones...

richard31uk (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:52 pm HIV can only be caught generally by two main body fuids the first being Blood and the second being male cum so unless there is a serious amount of blood in any other bodily fluid then you are safe so fo all those into water sports that has been proved to be perfectly safe unless the person is passing blood int here urine in which case they shouldn't be participating anyway.

Unless you trust your partner 1000% if you are a gay male you should allways use protection and way for anal penetration.

Well enough of me ranting but i feel that HIV is still misunderstood as a disease and how it can be contracted ;

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