Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince -- Warning spoilers

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Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince -- Warning spoilers

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Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince

Warning! This post contains spoilers. If you haven't read the book yet -- and plan to -- don't read this post.

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Apparently, we've seen the last of Hogwarts. Doesn't look like the kids will be returning. The story will take place elsewhere -- and may well be the last Harry Potter Book. Now, here's my predictions about the upcoming novel. If it's not how Rowling will write it, it's how I would. Check back in a year or so to see if I'm right.

Snape is not the bad guy he appears to be. Dumbledore was pleading with Snape to kill him. He was already dying, and Dumbledore needed to save Malfoy, who has a crucial part to play in ridding the world of Voldemort -- as does Snape. The hatred and revulsion Harry saw on Snape's face wasn't for Dumbledore, but for what he'd promised -- at some point -- he would do -- kill Dumbledore. It makes no sense for Dumbledore to have been wrong all this time about Snape.

Voldemort will trust Snape since he's killed Dumbledore, and he won't kill Malfoy for failing to kill Dumbledore. Somehow, they'll both aid Harry in killing Voldemort.

I liked this book much better than the last one, and I felt that it was appropriate for Dumbledore to die. Harry won't be dependent upon him, and Voldemort might become careless now that Dumbledore is gone. Dumbledore was the only person he really feared.

Rowling has told a good story, even though -- technically -- she's not the best writer in the world. Her dialog attributions and her have got's nearly drove me mad. She needed a good editor. I was reminded of the following quote by Mark Twain -- which also applies to adverbs.

I notice that you use plain, simple language, short words and brief sentences. That is the way to write English - it is the modern way and the best way. Stick to it; don't let fluff and flowers and verbosity creep in. When you catch an adjective, kill it. No, I don't mean utterly, but kill most of them - then the rest will be valuable. They weaken when they are close together. They give strength when they are wide apart. An adjective habit, or a wordy, diffuse, flowery habit, once fastened upon a person, is as hard to get rid of as any other vice.

- Letter to D. W. Bowser, 3/20/1880 From Mark Twain
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Yes I have read it.

I think your right about Dumbledore, the book was setting him up to die. No issue.

No Hogwarts? That makes great sense, all of those castles are being priced right out of sight. With no Hogwarts they can film everything on a sound stage.

If they break up the kids in the next book, what will be the point of the last two books? more money.

As if book 5 was not bad enough the latest was worse, I know that when book seven comes out I will buy a copy and read it. I will not preorder it.

NOW where is the error in the book? calling this person by his real name.

Looking for answers.

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I didn't notice the error you mention, RW, and I've read it (or rather, suffered through it!) twice.

I think it was much better than the last book, OOtP. That was a real stinker.

But let's think about it for a moment - the kids being split up.

I don't think that will happen. Face it, Harry isn't clever enough on his own to find the remaining four Horcruxes and destroy them. And Ron and Hermione aren't going to let him run off alone anyway. At least, there should be 4.

If The Dark Lord split his Soul into 7 parts, as they think he did, then he carries one in his new body and 2 have been eliminated so far. His Body, the Ring, and the Diary are already eliminated as candidates for Harry to find. The body comes last, and if R.A.B. did destroy the "locket" from the cave, if it is the locket, then that leaves 3 out there.

Personally, I think the Slytherin locket from Voldemort's mother is the locket found in Grimmauld Place in Book 3, PoA, that they couldn't open. It was also heavy, recall. It's probably still there, if Mundungus Fletcher didn't steal it too. It could also be at Hogwarts, or hidden again, if Kreacher had it in his collection of "shiny things" in the basement of Grimmauld Place.

Still, it was an OK read. I just with the characters had a little more depth to them.
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Slammr (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:56 pm Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince[/B

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Apparently, we've seen the last of Hogwarts. Doesn't look like the kids will be returning. The story will take place elsewhere -- and may well be the last Harry Potter Book. Now, here's my predictions about the upcoming novel. If it's not how Rowling will write it, it's how I would. Check back in a year or so to see if I'm right.

Snape is not the bad guy he appears to be. Dumbledore was pleading with Snape to kill him. He was already dying, and Dumbledore needed to save Malfoy, who has a crucial part to play in ridding the world of Voldemort -- as does Snape. The hatred and revulsion Harry saw on Snape's face wasn't for Dumbledore, but for what he'd promised -- at some point -- he would do -- kill Dumbledore. It makes no sense for Dumbledore to have been wrong all this time about Snape.

Voldemort will trust Snape since he's killed Dumbledore, and he won't kill Malfoy for failing to kill Dumbledore. Somehow, they'll both aid Harry in killing Voldemort.

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I think you incorrect. Snape killed Dumbledore because he had no choice, he had to SAVE Malfoy. You are correct here:
Slammr (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:56 pm Voldemort will trust Snape since he's killed Dumbledore, and he won't kill Malfoy for failing to kill Dumbledore. Somehow, they'll both aid Harry in killing Voldemort.

There will be allot more of Hogwarts because Voldemort still wants/needs to find more of Hogwarts secrets.

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Paolo wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:24 am But let's think about it for a moment - the kids being split up.

I don't think that will happen. Face it, Harry isn't clever enough on his own to find the remaining four Horcruxes and destroy them. And Ron and Hermione aren't going to let him run off alone anyway. At least, there should be 4.

I think the next story will definitely include Ron and Hermione and I would expect that Voldemort once again puts Ginny in danger and she'll have to be rescued by Harry.

"We'll be there, Harry," said Ron.

"What?"

"At your aunt and uncle's house," said Ron. "And then we'll go with you wherever you're going."

"No --" said Harry quickly; he had not counted on this; he had meant them to understand that he was undertaking this most dangerous journey alone.

"You said to us once before," said Hermione quietly, "that there was time to turn back if we wanted to. We've had time, haven't we?"

"We're with you whatever happens," said Ron. "But mate, you're going to have to come round my mum and dad's house before we do anything else, even Godric's Hollow."

Also, as I said before, I think Malfoy and Snape will play significant roles in the next story; and I think they'll help rid the world of Voldemort.
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_g (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:35 am I think you incorrect. Snape killed Dumbledore because he had no choice, he had to SAVE Malfoy. You are correct here:

There will be allot more of Hogwarts because Voldemort still wants/needs to find more of Hogwarts secrets.

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Dumbledore set up his own death; otherwise why would he have rid himself of his wand; and if Snape wasn't doing his bidding, Dumbledore becomes a dupe for having trusted him. I don't think Dumbledore was a dupe. I would even suspect that Dumbledore might return in some form.

Snape was obligated to protect Malfoy. He had made an unbreakable vow to do so, but I think that was also at Dumbledore's instructions. Malfoy has an important part to play. Rowling has set him up as a sympathic character. Dumbledore wanted to save him.

Of course, only Rowling knows what will really happen -- and I don't think she's going to tell us yet.

Harry says he'd not going back to Hogwarts, so I don't see Hogwarts being included in the next story. The kids are no longer kids. They will all be legal adults (by the magical community standards) by the end of the next summer. Ron is already 17, and Harry will be next summer.
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ok the answer is:

Turn to page 485 4th paragraph.

Sluthorn is talking to Harry and Hagrid after they just got him into his hut.

Sluthorn had a house-elf taste every bottle after what happened to your poor friend __________.

Fill in the blank, it should be RON and in a way it is.

If you dont want to look it up the answer is

River

Rupert, and no she was not refering to my cat.

Know you know were his name comes from.

Rupert Grint plays the part of RON

River

now to go read it again and see how meny other mistakes I can find. 😄
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There will be a lot more hogwarts {snip!}...

...because Hogs do not wash their hands after playing with toads...

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I saw that and figured it was a "nod" to Rupert Grint, the boy who plays Ron in the films. That, and Slughorn was always getting his name wrong, anyway.
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Whoa guys ... I thought these were for ADOLESCENT audiences! ;=)

My big complaint about these books is I don't see any solid theme or moral to them. Harry is special mainly because of his parentage rather than hard work (or creativity, or generosity, or any other generally important characteristic).

It seems to me that this book is (probably purposefully) appealing to geeky outcast kids who hope to find out one day that they are heirs to special powers and get a shortcut to fame and power.

I don't mean to knock them as they are obviously popular and entertaining for many ...

Maybe I'm wrong though. What themes do you see in the books?
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