The Fifth Nail

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Blog for Joseph Duncan the man accused of kidnapping the little girl in Idaho.

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[Slammr (imported)]

My blog entries lately are erratic and full of a lot of B.S., for that I apologize. I am just trying to put down what is in my head, regardless. As far as "taking people with me" well, I don't know if that is right or wrong. In fact, I don't know much any more what right and wrong even is. My view is either everything is right (in some regard) or everything is wrong (in some other regard). The question (one I am struggling with at this point) is, "Does it matter?"

Does anything matter? My mother is crying right now, because her son is in trouble again. She tried to raise a good son, and she knows her son has a good heart, so why does he do these things? She is probably more hurt and confused than me. Does it matter? It hurts me to know these things, but DOES IT MATTER???

A hundred years from now, all my mothers pain will be forgotten, and other mothers will cry for there sons. A million years from now there probably won't be any mothers (at least not like we know).

This poses a philosophical conundrum of sorts. If there is no God, it could very well be as he says, "Ultimately, nothing matters."

This seems to be his justification for the crimes he's committed; and it's probably been used by countless others. Is it valid?

Of course for most of us, it would pose no dilemma. It's either not in our nature to commit such horrific crimes, or we would fear the consequences imposed for the commission of them. Duncan, however, has never been part of society. Apparently abused as a child, he entered prison at age 17 where he spent the next 18 years. He was also facing another long prison sentence for sexual abuse of a child. Essentially, he had nothing to lose.

His lengthy stay in prison only exacerbated his danger to society, adding more dynamite to this ticking time bomb which they unleashed upon us.

To be more specific, I am scared, alone, and confused, and my reaction is to strike out toward the perceived source of my misery, society. My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die. As for the "Happy Joe" (Jet), well he was just a dream. The bogeyman was alive and happy long before Happy Joe.

In the past -- both in my stories and on the message boards -- I've argued against imposing long prison terms upon youthful offenders. I've reconsidered that stand. Some people -- even though young when they commit an offense -- should never be released. Duncan was probably one of those -- events have shown that he definitely was.

A sociopath (I can't be sure that Duncan was one) has no conscience. He feels that society should conform to his internal view of what it should be, not that he should conform to society. The only thing holding him back is the fear of consequences of his actions. Once he loses that fear there's nothing to stop him from doing whatever he wishes and justifying it as Duncan has.

So, I think that sociopaths -- after the commission of any serious offense -- should be locked up for good. Of course there's two problems with this: how do we do it and have a free society? and how do we infallibility identify a sociopath? Unfortunately, I don't have an answer.

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Slammr,

Declaring one criminall insane gets them placed in a mental institution until they are declared well.

After that, some states make them start serving their sentence.

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[Blaise (imported)]

Slammr,

Declaring one criminall insane gets them placed in a mental institution until they are declared well.

After that, some states make them start serving their sentence.

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http://www.codewolf.com/story/article_1004853.html

[Slammr (imported)]

Slammr,

Declaring one criminall insane gets them placed in a mental institution until they are declared well.

After that, some states make them start serving their sentence.

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Some states have civil commitment statutes for some sexual offenders allowing the state to keep a convicted sex offender imprisoned after his original sentance has been completed. Perhaps such statutes are needed, but they have vast potential for abuse and should be used only under stringent guidelines. Although I'm concerned about protecting society, I'm more concerned about protecting the Constitution.

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Slamrrr,

Get off of it!

You know that this BASTARD ought to be LYNCHED!

Hell, it would be more humane than giving him life and putting him in General Population. Even inmates, convicted felons won't let a bastard like this live among them.

He molested a little boy at gun point, made the boy blow him. I wish that they had CASTRATED this asshole before they made him do his 12 years the last time.

Besides that, what about the 3 he killed during the abduction and then he hacked the little boy's body into pieces AFTER he probably ********** him MULTIPLE times.

Excuse me, but this BASTARD has no rights since it was his 'rights' that got him out of jail so that he could kill and molest again.

Innocent? Let's see. He was driving a stolen car, and he was caught on video bringing the little girl into a restaurant or a stop and go. They stalled him until the police got there.

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[Blaise (imported)]

Slamrrr,

Get off of it!

You know that this BASTARD ought to be LYNCHED!

Hell, it would be more humane than giving him life and putting him in General Population. Even inmates, convicted felons won't let a bastard like this live among them.

He molested a little boy at gun point, made the boy blow him. I wish that they had CASTRATED this asshole before they made him do his 12 years the last time.

Besides that, what about the 3 he killed during the abduction and then he hacked the little boy's body into pieces AFTER he probably ********** him MULTIPLE times.

Excuse me, but this BASTARD has no rights since it was his 'rights' that got him out of jail so that he could kill and molest again.

Innocent? Let's see. He was driving a stolen car, and he was caught on video bringing the little girl into a restaurant or a stop and go. They stalled him until the police got there.

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The question is whether any child sex offender should ever be free after his or her first conviction. That might increase the rate of murder. It might not. How do we protect children from those who hurt them or might hurt them?

As important as understanding these murderers is, preventing their crime is more important. We put away drug offenders for very long intervals. Why is it that sexual criminals find release in only a decade or two?

[Slammr (imported)]

Slamrrr,

Get off of it!

You know that this BASTARD ought to be LYNCHED!

Hell, it would be more humane than giving him life and putting him in General Population. Even inmates, convicted felons won't let a bastard like this live among them.

He molested a little boy at gun point, made the boy blow him. I wish that they had CASTRATED this asshole before they made him do his 12 years the last time.

Besides that, what about the 3 he killed during the abduction and then he hacked the little boy's body into pieces AFTER he probably ********** him MULTIPLE times.

Excuse me, but this BASTARD has no rights since it was his 'rights' that got him out of jail so that he could kill and molest again.

Innocent? Let's see. He was driving a stolen car, and he was caught on video bringing the little girl into a restaurant or a stop and go. They stalled him until the police got there.

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I hope you weren't refering to my post on the constitution. I wasn't referring to this asshole. I'm sorry they released him in the first place. Reread my post. You certainly read something into it that I didn't put there. If you bothered to read the previous post you would have seen that I said these kind of people should be locked up for good.

What I was saying in the last post wasn't at all about Duncan. There's a fine line between protecting society and protecting our rights guaranteed by the constitution. Certainly we could make society safer by putting such people into concentration camps and keeping them there until they die, but if we become too carried away, we no longer have a free society. If we throw away due process, then who makes the decision who is locked up, Bush? I'm not worried about Duncan's rights. He has none at this point. No way he's getting off. I'm worried about mine -- and yours.

History has many examples for us where all the power in a country was in the hands of one men -- Hitler, Saddam, etc. I like having a constitution that protects my rights.

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Slammr,

Agreed.

However, this guy is a boil on the ass of humanity. The infected pusbag has to GO.

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[An Onymus (imported)]

The Joseph Duncan case is one of those disturbing matters which call a lot of our notions about freedom into question. Obviously, this guy never should have been out loose where he could prey on children. And he should never see the outside of a jailhouse again. Philosophically, I just don't like the idea that the government should have the power to execute criminals, or to put them in a cage for life. But we can be 99% certain that, even if he hadn't killed anybody, Duncan should never have been put on the streets again after his earlier convictions, and he probably showed signs before that, that he was a danger to any community he lived in. Are there people who, even if they aren't technically insane, and haven't committed crimes yet, should not be allowed the freedoms the rest of us have? I don't like the idea, but you can make an argument for it.