I have been wishing my cock and balls to shrink, and have been contemplating chemical castration. However, I really would not wish to be feminized, especially breast growth. I read that Depo is good at that. But I am not particularly keen on doing injections. Could anyone help with other forms of oral chemical castrations that would not bring about breast growth?

I suppose you could try Spironolactone or maybe Androcur, along with maybe depo provera. I don't know why you would want to do that, though. Taking drugs can be risky or downright dangerous in the wrong hands. I don't recommend it merely for fetish reasons.

WeRNotAfraid (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:23 am I suppose you could try Spironolactone or maybe Androcur, along with maybe depo provera.

All three of these are effective means for chemical castration. Androcur and Depo-Provera are probably the most effective and costly.

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WeRNotAfraid (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:23 am Taking drugs can be risky or downright dangerous in the wrong hands. I don't recommend it merely for fetish reasons.

I agree. There are certian risks to taking any medication, which is why most of them are prescribed by a doctor. Many have successfully taken them without any supervision, but that's not to say you won't have any problems. If you do try this on your own, be aware of any abnormal symptoms or side effects.

hkeunuch (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:00 am However, I really would not wish to be feminized, especially breast growth. I read that Depo is good at that.

This could be misleading somewhat. I'm sure you've read about the physical, as well as emotion, changes castration will bring about. Andrew has a fine list of effects on a post HERE (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthr ... on+effects).

Castration effects varies from person to person. In general there is muscle loss, skin changes, along with less body hair and odor.

Both the hormones, estrogen and testosterone, are produced in our bodies. Depending if you are male or female will determine which are in greater proportions. Once testosterone is suppressed, it will allow the estrogen in your body to take over. If you are estrogen sensitive, you may or may not experience some mild feminisation including breast growth. Perhaps it may be a little or even none at all. Just be aware that there is a chance it could happen.

Keep in mind that chemical castration can make you sterile in a short period of time even if you stop and regular testosterone production returns to normal.

hkeunuch (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:00 am I have been wishing my cock and balls to shrink, and have been contemplating chemical castration. However, I really would not wish to be feminized, especially breast growth. I read that Depo is good at that. But I am not particularly keen on doing injections. Could anyone help with other forms of oral chemical castrations that would not bring about breast growth?

Depo-Provera stops the production of both male & female hormones so it is non-feminizing.

madscientist1 (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:59 pm Depo-Provera stops the production of both male & female hormones so it is non-feminizing.

I'm a bit miffed about the difference between Provera and Depo-Provera. I do know that many male to female transsexuals take Provera as an added bonus for breast growth. The difference with Depo-Provera is that is delivered intramuscular to reduce the risks of clotting. So shouldn't the two be similar in effects? Or is it the fact that taken along with estrogens will have the added effect of breast growth?

I do know of some non-transgendered who have taken Depo-Provera (along with a very low dose of estrogens for hot flashes) and have gotten mild breast growth.

Provera vs Depo-Provera: same thing except Depo-Provera is longer lasting, thus having a stronger effect. Not sure injections reduce the risk of clotting. Any studies showing that?

Depo-Provera or Provera, without estrogen, will just reduce male or female hormones thru negative feedback inhibition at the pituitary level (LH & FSH). With estrogen, progesterone receptors will increase in number thus increasing the effect of the substance on breast and possibly other tissues.

Depo-Provera or Provera will reduce testosterone production in males and hence estradiol as this is converted from testosterone. But the inhibition exerted by testosterone on certain tissues like the breast area will be much less and thus the remaining estrogen (estradiol, estrone) will have more of an effect on the breast, possibly (but not always) leading to gynecomastia in males.

Erika

I agree totally with Christina,It of coarse varies from person to person, but would think that some Brest growth could be possible even when nothing is take to promote it.Tough decision. dl

Thank you all for the advice. Certainly much food for thought before jumping in with any of these serious medications.

True enough that these are serious decision for a fetish.

I read on another thread about Proscar (used for treating benign prostate enlargement). Can anybody share their experience on that? Would it resolve my dilemma -- chemical castration without feminization?

Not at all. Proscar is not potent enough to castrate you and far from it.

Christina (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:16 pm I'm a bit miffed about the difference between Provera and Depo-Provera. I do know that many male to female transsexuals take Provera as an added bonus for breast growth. The difference with Depo-Provera is that is delivered intramuscular to reduce the risks of clotting.

I take vitamin B complex+B12 shots to prevent clotting. 1/month is good

Christina (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:16 pm . So shouldn't the two be similar in effects? Or is it the fact that taken along with estrogens will have the added effect of breast growth?

DP

madscientist1 (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:59 pm stops the production of both male & female hormones so

certainly the introduction of any exogenous female hormones may produce breast growth.