That picure of the bronze Roman castration clamp on the Home page is interesting. I can't figure how it worked, where the peepee and balls went to bid goodbye, etc, and whether those blades acted like scissors? If anyone has any information please share it?

thanks yankee masha

There is a lot of literature surrounding this artifact.

Go to the library or your friendly bookstore and secure a copy of "Encyclopedia of Unusual Sex Practices" by Brenda Love. It has a pic of the clamp and explains its use.

You may also visit the site...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 56,00.html

The actual clamp, it seems is in the British Museum...

http://www.britannia.com/tours/bmrbgal/cybele.html

More reading....

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/goddess3/

Scroll half way down this webopage and look for the hot spots.. heh heh heh..

http://seika.pitas.com/4.html

The relevant part that you ask for is about 1/4 the way down on this webpage... it is aroug the illustration 8.2 of the little girl gett in circumcised...

http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/eln08_ ... aring.html

more reading....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4418479,00.html

http://www.geocities.com/kidhistory/chi ... hch8dm.htm

http://dir.salon.com/books/review/2000/ ... index.html

exhaustive reading may be found here

http://members.aol.com/USCCCN/castration.index.html

more FGM

http://www.nocirc.org/symposia/first/badawi.html

Sherry's page

http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/C ... ctors.html

even more...

http://www.road-less-traveled.com/jesorch.html

http://www.lelibraire.com/din/tit.php?Id=3411

Stuudy hard, now, ya hear? The test is next week...

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I guess there first thing to be done is to thank you for that extensive lsit of links. Very nice of you to take the time and effort.

you're well come, feller...

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All these sites are interesting, but I still don't know how that Roman clamp works. Great reading though.

yankee masha (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2003 3:31 am All these sites are interesting, but I still don't know how that Roman clamp works. Great reading though.

There are descriptions available, but briefly the clamp was hinged at the top (actually tied together) the penis popped through the hole to keep away, the inside of the clamp "blades" are serrated. The testicles are drawn through between the blades and the bottom of the clamp tied together so clamping the scotum and restricting the blood supply to the trapped testes. Castration followed usually by slicing off the testes with a red hot blade so cautherising the wound at the same time. Nothing new, I have a modern surgical clamp that does exactly the same job.

Hope this helps.

Quillman UK

The use of the clamp has already been described by a certain writer called 'Pueros' in his on-going story of 'Nero'.

PUEROS

No disrespect pueros, but I haven't read it. Which intallment is it?

Thanks, Quillman, I was afraid that was how it worked. Leave it to the Romans to devise the most sadistic and painful way to do anything. Can you imagine the terror the geldee went through being put into it, knowing what was coming then subjected to such a painful nightmarish procedure?

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yankee masha (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:12 am Thanks, Quillman, I was afraid that was how it worked. Leave it to the Romans to devise the most sadistic and painful way to do anything. Can you imagine the terror the geldee went through being put into it, knowing what was coming then subjected to such a painful nightmarish procedure?

Well, I suppose that it is not any worse than crucifixion...Would you like a website to read about that?

I used to have one that gave a medical description of how crucifixion killed the victim, but the site is no longer up. The medical description is fascinating, though. It was a torturous death from dehydration and asphyxiation that usually occurred hours after hanging. To accelerate the asphyxiation the victim's legs were broken so that they could no longer push up and get the weight off of their arms, increasing the efficiency of and lessening the effort of breathing.

This, in turn, impaired the breathing mechanism mechanically. It the centurian happened to be merciful they stabbed the victim up under the ribcage, usually in the right side lacerating the liver, the diaphram and collapsing the right lung. This hastened death considerably, if not from the tension pneumothorax from the blood lost from the liver laceration.

If the Romans wanted to be particularly cruel, they forbid the body to be moved, letting it feed the birds and decay in the sun as an example to all that they were to be obeyed and feared.

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In answer to Yankee Masha's question, I refer to the use of the clamp in chapter 14 of 'Nero'. The device was actually primarily used for self-castration by gallae initiates of the goddess Cybele from about the middle of the 1st century AD, although many needed at least some help to accomplish their painful duty.

PUEROS