Hi!

Most of eunuchs here are castrated under anaesthesia. Is there anybody who was done without anaesthetics. Or only with some painkillers? Could you please describe your experience publicly here or privately!

I just got an idea to have myself castrated without anaesthetics. I have ripped myself at some places on my body accidentally and I have been sewn together without anaesthetics. I had a deep wound on my face, which was put together with 7 stiches without any anaesthetics. That was painful!

Hi!

erikboy (imported) wrote: Sat May 24, 2003 12:54 pm Most of eunuchs here are castrated under anaesthesia

I would hope so. I suppose some people are into pain for pain's sake, but I am not one of them. Dr. Spector did a fine job of numbing me "down there".

I mean, what is the point of trying to be castrated in great pain? To prove how MACHO you are? Whilst becoming a eunuch?

Andrew (imported) wrote: Sat May 24, 2003 4:26 pm I would hope so. I suppose some people are into pain for pain's sake, but I am not one of them. Dr. Spector did a fine job of numbing me "down there".

I mean, what is the point of trying to be castrated in great pain? To prove how MACHO you are? Whilst becoming a eunuch?

No, this is not to prove machoness. This is about experience. In ancient times there were no anaesthetics available. Only some mild painkillers. If the pain will become unbearable (I am afraid it will) then we have plenty of drugs at our hands.

You can experience castration only once anyway.

erikboy (imported) wrote: Sun May 25, 2003 2:06 am You can experience castration only once anyway.

Indeed. I experienced it in Dr. Spector's operating room, with classical music in the background, and a running conversation with Spector, Jeff and Elaine. If there was a high point in the whole procedure, it was after Dr. Spector had removed the second testicle, held it up for me to view, and said "Congratulations! You are now a eunuch!"

Did Dr. Spector have on his white shirt, with the sleeves rolled up past his elbows?

Nope. Scrubs and gowns on all three.

salami

That sounds like a lot of fun. especially the thought of dropping the live testicle into hot cooking oil while still attached. I bet it would be really tasty afterwards as well. I wish I was your wife to be there for that one

I am one who understands you when you say you want to experience the feelings.

With a wife, I have slit my scrotum open - just to see what it looks like inside. Withoug anesthetics. I had no real doscomfort. I think that if you're used to experimenting with, and abusing your scrotum, testicles and penis, you can handle it.

My wife and I are wondering anyone has ever taken a testicle out of the bag, and before cutting it free at the cords, with the nerves still connected, done anything particularly cruel to it. Such as soaking the still live testicle (but ligated at the cords, to eliminate circulation and to be ready to sever the cords) into a marinade sauce. She's thinking that it might be interesting for both of us to slide the still-live testicle into a marinade sauce to get it ready to cook. Maybe poke the testicle with a sharp knife point to allow marinade to soak into the meat of the testicle. Or even harsher, slide the still-live but ligated testicle down into hot cooking oil (like a Fry-Daddy). If it's too painful to withstand, I suppose the cords could be snipped at that point.

I also wanted to be castrated w/o anesthetic. I'm not into pain. It was just part of wanting to fully experience the loss of my balls. I did considerable research beforehand. One cutter had told me that he had castrated a dozen guys w/o anesthetic. Another guy said that he would never use a local anesthetic because of the additional risk to the well-being of the client (allergic reaction, risk of injecting too much, etc.).

My cutter agreed to try it. However, we had local anesthetic available just in case the pain was more than I could take. My left nut was expressed outside the sac w/o local anesthetic. There was quite a burning sensation with the cutting of the first layer of skin. There are no nerves below that, and the experience of watching the cutter cut the inner layers of tissue in the sac and then the ligaments holding the testicle in place was truly wonderful. However, once the nut was out and the cutter began to tie off the cord, I began to experience intense pain in the nerve in the cord bundle - all the way down to the knee. I requested that the local anesthetic be injected into the cord. From then on, everything was smooth. As the experience was a bit too much, however, we used the local anesthetic from the getgo on the 2nd nut. That experience was much better, and I would personally recommend the use of local anesthetic. I would add, however, that the anesthetic injected into the sac skin had worn off by the time the cutter got around to suturing the wound through which the ball had been expressed, and the pricks associated with putting the sutures in place were quite bearable - likely no different than putting pins in one's balls.

My conclusion is that most guys could take having their balls expressed w/o local anesthetic, but like me, they would discover that the more painful part of the procedure is the trauma to the cord bundle. Friends that were there with me said that I had turned quite pale just before the injection of local anesthetic into the cord, but that my colour came back immediately upon the injection of the anesthetic. My parting comment: just be careful and cautious. I was lucky to have a cutter that knew what he was doing and was very caring towards me throughout the process. His focus was helping me to remember my castration as a pleasant experience, as well as a memorable one. It was both.

Usually the fear and anticipation of pain from being cut on the genitals is biological as the body protects this area more than almost any other. The pain is intense as a protection device of the brain. I have a technique for handling pain which I find works very well even in intense situaitons. By preparing yhourself psychologically, and infiorming the brain (the subconscious area) that the operation is desirable and you know about it already, the pain becomes minimized tremendously.

Pain is nothing more than a strong alarm to alert you to danger to the body so you can do something to protect yhourself. When the pain is connected to something you want or need for your phsycial or psychological peace of mind, then you can take over and control it to the point of not feeling it at all. or at least controlling how much you want to experience.

This MIGHT also be a way to control infections by alerting the brain to initiate strong defense measure naturally against opportunistic bacteria that enter the wound.

Just a thought.

This doesn't have any direct application to the initial post on this thread, but Yankee Masha's comments call to mind several tricks for minimizing pain and discomfort. One is the old method the plains Indians used to keep from feeling the chill of a cold wind. They would simply concentrate on feeling the sensations they were experiencing on the leeward side of the body, where the skin was several degrees warmer.

That's an interesting technique. As you probably know the ibetan lamas used to practice a technique of visualizing a candle flame and they sitting in the middle of it to produce body heat. They had to wear a wet cloth over their bodies and produce enough heat to dry the cloth. So the mind is able to do many things that seem impossible. if you see your body as a machine that is conditioned in certain ways -- such as to feel pain in certain situations -- then you can tell it what to do. If I may continue when they found a wild boy who had somehow survived (in France around the early 20th century I think) and been nurtured by animals, they found him running naked in the winter. He did not feel pain from certain stimuli, such as pin pricks, and other ways because he did not know it was supposed to hurt.

This seems off the subjject, but I want to illustrate how easy it is to control pain or eliminate it altogether at will.

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