An Open Letter To The Hollywood Bunch

OK let's just say for a moment you bunch of pampered, overpaid, unrealistic children had your way and the U.S.A. didn't go into Iraq.

Let's say that you really get your way and we destroy all our nuclear weapons and stick daisies in our gun barrels and sit around with some white wine and cheese and pat ourselves on the back, so proud of what we've done for world peace.

Let's say that we cut the military budget to just enough to keep the National Guard on hand to help out with floods and fires.

Let's say that we close down our military bases all over the world and bring the troops home, increase our foreign aid and drop all the trade sanctions against everybody.

I suppose that in your fantasy world this would create a utopian world where

everybody would live in peace. After all, the great monster, the United States of America, the cause of all the world's trouble would have disbanded it's horrible military and certainly all the other countries of the world would follow suit. After all, they only arm themselves to defend their countries from the mean old U.S.A.

Why you bunch of pitiful, hypocritical, idiotic, spoiled mugwumps. Get your head out of the sand and smell the Trade Towers burning. Do you think that a trip to Iraq by Sean Penn did anything but encourage a wanton murderer to think that the people of the U.S.A. didn't have the nerve or the guts to fight him?

Barbara Streisand's fanatical and hateful rankings about George Bush makes about as much sense as Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a railing.

You people need to get out of Hollywood once in a while and get out into the real world. You'd be surprised at the hostility you would find out here.

Stop in at a truck stop and tell an overworked, long distance truck driver that you don't think Saddam Hussein is doing anything wrong.

Tell a farmer with a couple of sons in the military that you think the United States has no right to defend itself.

Go down to Baxley, Georgia and hold an anti-war rally and see what the folks

down there think about you. You people are some of the most disgusting examples of a waste of protoplasm I've ever had the displeasure to hear about.

Sean Penn, you're a traitor to the United States of America. You gave aid and comfort to the enemy. How many American lives will your little, "fact finding trip" to Iraq cost? You encouraged Saddam to think that we didn't have the stomach for war.

You people protect one of the most evil men on the face of this earth and won't lift a finger to save the life of an unborn baby. Freedom of choice you say?

Well I'm going to exercise some freedom of choice of my own. If I see any of your names on a marquee, I'm going to boycott the movie. I will completely stop going to movies if I have to. In most cases it certainly wouldn't be much of a loss.

You scoff at our military who's boots you're not even worthy to shine. They go to battle and risk their lives so ingrates like you can live in luxury.

The day of reckoning is coming when you will be faced with the undeniable truth that the war against Saddam Hussein is the war on terrorism.

America is in imminent danger. You're either for her or against her. There is no middle ground.

I think we all know where you stand. What do you think?

God Bless America

Charlie Daniels

Sometimes being a "Charlie" is just so GREAT! :tongueout :tongueout

Thanks for posting that quote, A-1. I knew Charlie Daniels was pretty outspoken in his support of our country, but I had not heard or seen that particular quote.

About the only thing I can add is to say that his little speech could be applied to a lot more than just Hollywood's celebreties.

Hey Guys! Here's a great idea!! If you're so gung-ho for this war, why not get on the next plane and help out in the desert??

It's a lot easier to support a war by running at the mouth than by picking up a rifle, isn't it?

max

Well, you should know, Max, as you seem to be the resident expert at running off at the mouth.

You know what, guys? I think in the various threads concerning GW Bush and Iraq, we have lost sight of once very important point.

Whether we like George or not, whether we are Republican or Democrat, whether we are anti- or pro- war, are all irrelevant. The important thing here is, nobody has dropped any bombs yet (except the terrorists).

All George is trying to do, with the support of Tony Blair, is to get the UN to do their fucking job! He is trying to push them to enforce the resolution they have already passed, or to pass a new one if the previous one is inappropriate.

I still believe what I stated a few weeks ago, that the real answer is to have George and Saddam duke it out, aided on both sides by whomever is so inclined to join in, but we all know that is not going to happen, so the alternative is to "send the Marines."

For the record, I hate war! I was a child during WWII, and several of my classmates lost their dad's in Europe. Two of my best friends during those years were Jews; they lost their entire families in Hitler's ovens... one of them even lost his parents - they had forseen what was coming and sent their son to Canada to live with an uncle, and they never made it out. I consider myself honored to have known him. We went through school together, and you know what? When he got word that there was no hope that his parents could have survived, (I think we were 8 at the time) he publicly thanked his God, in school, for those who had survived! We could do things like that in school back then... now we're too "liberated" or "enlightened," or something...

Please, stop for a moment and think where this world would be today if we had not fought back against that monster.

Max, I regret having to say this, but here it comes anyway: I will not respond to any more of your posts because I find them extremely offensive, irrational, and, in many cases, just plain stupid. If your objective is to annoy and frustrate, you have succeeded, but no more. From here on I will just consider the source.

Oh, and for the record,

As the Gulf War heated up in 1990/91, I literally BEGGED both the Canadian and US military to allow me to contribute in some way. They both turned me down because I was "too old." Well, since that was 22 years ago I didn't even try this time, but I would in a heartbeat if I thought there was any chance I would be accepted.

What we have, the very fact that we can have this public dialog , disagree violently not only with each other but with the Administration, is so very, very special it is worth defending at all costs! Unfortunately I believe that's where we are today.

...settle down.

We are allowed our opinions, what with America being a free country and all of that, right?

I have a question, though. Suppose for a moment that Charlieje and I enlisted, then would you support America's armed forces?

No, not George W.,.. I said...

AMERICA'S ARMED FORCES.

I would enlist. I can't run very well but I betcha I could fly an F-16 with a little practice. If not, a B-2 would be alright, too. Actually, they are more up my alley. Slow, steady and deadly accurate.

I mean, after all, the handling characteristics can't be much different than the YB49A, which I have studied as a hobby for 20 years or so.

Flying Wings are great as long as you don't try to power stall them. That is how Maj. Glen Edwards died. (You know, the one that Edwards Air Force Base in California is named after.)

So come on, Max. You'd e-mail us, wouldn't ya?

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oddly, the yb49 flying wing was just 40 years ahead of its time; the sophisticated avionics and computer controls to keep an inherently unstable vehicle flying didn't exist yet. but flyable or not, i still think flying wings look creepy.

max

I already put myself on the line... nothing happened while I was in. I've also had a change of heart militarily. Since they don't want my kind (gay) in there I don't feel I have any obligation to feel sorry for those that are there that spount off anti-homosexual nonesense.

However they have put a stop-loss order into effect (meaning you cannot be discharged if you have a critical job or they just want to get rid of you for whatever reason) that includes no discharges for homosexuality.

I have a fundamental problem with that. For some reason we are good enough to go get shot when there is a war on, but when its over and peace reigns, we're suddenly not good enough.

That griping aside, I strongly support the US Government position and I'm generally liberal. The UN has essentially become an irrelevant debating society. They pass resolution on top of resolution for whatver reason, this time because Iraq is creating weapons that in the past they have demonstrated they will use. But wait! The UN doesn't want to hurt the Iraqi people. So you get places like France jumping on that bandwagon and threatening to veto anything that makes the bad guy comply.

Unfortunately, this isn't the real reason France and Russia don't want to go to war. They are more interested in getting the current sanctions regime removed. If that happens they stand to make billions off of the higher exports of Iraqi oil, which they have contracts to work on.

I'd suspect if Bush had gone to them and said they would do what they could to keep those contracts intact, the outcome in the UN would have been much different.

So I'm guessing that at somepoint Wednesday (3/19/03) the US Armed forces, along with that coalition of the willing, will be marching into Iraq. I could be wrong on this, but I'd guess the UN will be moving in a year or so. They probably will want to go to a host country (currently the USA) that they feel won't push them into anything. My attitude, good riddence! If they go elsewhere, we won't have to admit any "diplomats" from hostile countries into the US.

Oh well, on a rant again. <shrug> What does anyone else think of this stuff?

As you know I have stated that I am not for this war until everything has been tried.

I think we are just about there.

No, I did not vote for Bush, I don’t agree with what he has done as president.

BUT

The second our first bombs hit Baghdad I will be waving my flag in the street and cheering on our troops.

I will support this president completely in that effort.

I only hope it last as long as the last one because he needs to do something with the economy and quickly.

To many people are out of work and I don’t see anything coming from this president to help the economy, what I do see is big corporations eliminating more and more jobs, after all there is a bottom line to reach. I think this is called trickle down economics. I just wish a little would trickle down to me.

Anyway I think I got off track a bit, if we are going to do it (war) then lets get on with it. I have come to the conclusion that the only thing these Muslims understand is power and lots of it, so maybe its time we crush them back into the sand.

This should not take us long, we should do it quickly and decisively, let there be no doubt in any nations mine that we are not a paper tiger nor do we have to ask permission from the UN to do this. War was declared on us on 9/11. It would have been nice to have our so called friends behind us but we don’t need them. We have been wasting to much time, lets go kick some ass, its time we put a line in the sand and tell the rest of the world to pick a side or stay the hell out of our way and if your staying out of the way then shut the fuck up.

Riverwind

you said...

the yb49

MaxPgh (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:47 pm oddly, the yb49 flying wing was just 40 years ahead of its time; the sophisticated avionics and computer controls to keep an inherently unstable vehicle flying didn't exist yet. but flyable or not, i still think flying wings look creepy.

max

Actually, it was stable enough, but not for a bomber.

They modified the Norton bomb site to act as a yaw damper. Without it, the bombidier wold get sea sick trying to put the bombs on target.

The problem with Flying Wings is that they must be handled differently than any other aircraft.

If you wanted a WWII era unstable Hot Rod, the B-26 was the one. It was know as the "Widow Maker" for a time. Here, check it out!

Martin B-26 Marauder (http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/B-26.html)

If you would like to see some of these vintage planes, the vintage air show in Osh Kosh in the summertime is just the ticket.

Rumor has it that they are flying the P-38 Lightning that was recovered from 300 ft. below the surface of a glacer in Greenland in. I understand that no expenses were spared in its re-building and is is an excellent example and perhaps the only example of an early P-38 still flying.

Cheers!

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