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Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:21 pm
by Ramsfield (imported)
Hello everyone!
I've just seen a video that seems to be a copy of another (looks like somewhere in China). The technique used on a man is presented as more effective than Burdizzo link pulled - Malwarebytes AV Warning!
Many years ago I saw something like this in a film about poor Indian farmers. They did the same thing to bulls - at least, it looks less traumatic than burdizzo. I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether it can be effective. Any comments are welcome.
Re: Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:45 pm
by Paolo
I don't even know where to start.
Just... No.
Re: Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:52 pm
by WheelyFixed
Since Paolo pulled the link, (Thanks, since it seems suspect) I don't know what the 'tapping' technique involves, but I would be VERY dubious on the grounds of being either more humane or more effective, ESPECIALLY on people...
It is important to note that there are significant differences between bull and human anatomy, namely that human cords are considerably more elastic and compressible than bull cords, so while the burdizzo works well on cattle and appears to cause relatively little pain, on people it reportedly causes extreme pain, and does NOT work reliably - it does work on some users, but most find it doesn't, and many have needed urgent medical attention after trying... Definitely NOT a well regarded method.
(Yes it is a popular tool in the 'stories' area, but remember that those are FICTION....)
Now that we have a medically approved process in the WPATH SOC v. 8, (It works, I used it!) and the option for medical tourism to well regarded (and relatively low cost) clinics for folks in areas that aren't following the WPATH protocols for whatever reason, I see no reason to consider wonky high risk DIY methods of getting fixed when SAFE and fairly low pain surgical options are available....
WheelyFixed
Re: Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:29 pm
by Paolo
The site linked involved the word "mother" and let's leave it at that. When a site sets off my security software, that's that. That, and all the other thumbnails and ads, as most video sharing sites have, made me nearly vomit.
Re: Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:17 pm
by Losethem (imported)
Ramsfield (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:21 pm
Hello everyone!
I've just seen a video that seems to be a copy of another (looks like somewhere in China). The technique used on a man is presented as more effective than Burdizzo link pulled - Malwarebytes AV Warning!
Many years ago I saw something like this in a film about poor Indian farmers. They did the same thing to bulls - at least, it looks less traumatic than burdizzo. I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether it can be effective. Any comments are welcome.
Let's assume for a minute that it is a method. From what you're describing, it sounds a lot like burdizzo in mechanism of action, and that generally works poorly on humans.
So I'm with Paolo... Just... No.
Re: Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:43 pm
by WheelyFixed
Paolo wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:29 pm
The site linked involved the word "mother" and let's leave it at that. When a site sets off my security software, that's that. That, and all the other thumbnails and ads, as most video sharing sites have, made me nearly vomit.
No problem from me w/ deleting the link - I was saying THANK YOU for getting rid of a link to a sketchy site - I think that was the right thing to do from your description...
WheelyFixed
Re: Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:57 pm
by Ramsfield (imported)
Well, I have been away for a few days and now see some replies, thanks all.
I think, I agree with WheelyFixed that the difference in anatomy can make the difference. And that is why the method can fail on humans.
As the link has been deleted (it was linked to the "mother-less" site) and I have not been able to find the rural video with the animal, I can generally describe what was in the video. It looked very home-made. A man's scrotum was pulled away from his body and tied with a cloth close to the body. Then a wooden block was placed under the scrotum and another person used what looked like a thin hammer to gently beat the cords through the cloth for 5 minutes continuously. The video had captions describing the procedure.
The beating was called 'tapping' as it did not look like a violent beating. According to the captions, the main idea was that taping caused massive swelling, which blocks blood supply to the testicles. So they stop functioning and that causes castration. The tapping looked very light, no scars appear as with Burdizzo. And the person on whom it was done didn't look very disturbed.
In general, that was it. If needed, I can try to download the video and then upload it to some cloud storage, but I think the description is pretty accurate.
Re: Hammer tapping vs. Burdizzo: will work or not?
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:45 am
by Losethem (imported)
Ramsfield (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:57 pm
Well, I have been away for a few days and now see some replies, thanks all.
I think, I agree with WheelyFixed that the difference in anatomy can make the difference. And that is why the method can fail on humans.
As the link has been deleted (it was linked to the "mother-less" site) and I have not been able to find the rural video with the animal, I can generally describe what was in the video. It looked very home-made. A man's scrotum was pulled away from his body and tied with a cloth close to the body. Then a wooden block was placed under the scrotum and another person used what looked like a thin hammer to gently beat the cords through the cloth for 5 minutes continuously. The video had captions describing the procedure.
The beating was called 'tapping' as it did not look like a violent beating. According to the captions, the main idea was that taping caused massive swelling, which blocks blood supply to the testicles. So they stop functioning and that causes castration. The tapping looked very light, no scars appear as with Burdizzo. And the person on whom it was done didn't look very disturbed.
In general, that was it. If needed, I can try to download the video and then upload it to some cloud storage, but I think the description is pretty accurate.
I came to my comments and conclusion after seeing the video several years ago. It's nothing new.