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Hello

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:35 pm
by narkosberim (imported)
Hello everybody and greetings from Germany!

For those of you who like short texts I will make the long story short and crisp:

I'm 25 years old, identify as non-binary, didn't develop too male and stayed rather short (luckily) and I want to get rid of my male genitals since basically ever. I've decided to join this forum because I am looking for exchange and possibly a way to make my dream come true here in Germany. While I'm not new to these kind of communities (I've been a member on some other sites as well), most other places have shut down by now and so I thought I'd give this forum a try.

Now the long story:

Like many of you I have always known that I am different. Due to a medical condition I was born with, I got semi-castrated before the age of six and - before that, due to the same condition - I got my entire foreskin removed. While the result worked and fixed the condition, my little member looked botched on the underside and also got circumcision marks at the upper base - an aesthetic horror I have since despised. Early on I did develop the wish to rather have my member gone completely and wished that they had removed the other testicle as well.

When puberty set on, I instantly disliked the changes to my body. Luckily, puberty turned out rather lazy on me. I stayed pretty small (even smaller than the average woman), did not develop a too deep voice, and at least when I shave my beard I still at times get asked whether I'm "already 16 years old". My member also kept tiny, when erect far below the average size even of a flaccid male member, and my little testicle also kept its tiny size.

Unfortunately, some (for my liking) too manly changes still occurred. My beard grows more or less normally, but with a density too low to look even slightly decent if I were to keep it growing, and at the same time with hairs too thick to shave it more than once a week (going to try a new razor next week, wish me luck!). I also despise the hair on the rest of my body, especially my legs and my crotch and butt. Furthermore, my libido is far stronger than I'd like it to be. It's been that way even since long before puberty, perhaps triggered or at least amplified through the surgeries. Yet I believe it would have been there even without the surgeries. If I get horny - and that since kindergarten age - it distracts me from my tasks and plans and leads me to spending too much time and energy on jacking off. And sometimes, even money (luckily though I'm still kinda stingy even when horny)...

Due to me knowing from young age that my member had been modified, I searched the internet and stumbled upon this whole thematic, which instantly caught my interest. And even before I discovered the world of eunuchs and people who by their own will seek to lose parts or all of their genitals, I knew I wanted my genitals gone and fantasized about it since childhood (and well, I also fantasized about other boys in my elementary school getting their members cut off - I was a very sexually active little fucker). Don't get me wrong, it's not a fantasy I get aroused to which then gets dismissed after reaching the climax (when the infamous post-nut-clarity sets in). The thought arouses me, yes, but it has always been there, and it is still there even after the orgasm.

Even before the beginning of puberty, around the age of ten, I already knew that I totally wanted to become a nullo. I disliked my male features, my erections, the ejaculations, the libido. Everything. At the same time, I also discovered my preference for more or less anything girly or female - especially wearing girlsÂ’ clothes (I found some sorted out clothes in our basement from my older sister which had been lying there since ever and wore them when I was alone at home, and boy did I feel free and happy wearing them). But I also knew that I did not want to live as a girl and become a woman as a whole. I wanted to be both: Male (even though more in a neutral sense) and female. In retrospective, I would have been the happiest if I did not have to go through puberty at all and were to grow up as a neutral, genderless being with the ability to switch between a male, a female and a neutral identity. If we're being honest, puberty did not do that much for me anyway, so I could have skipped that bit as well.

After reaching adulthood and moving into my own apartment for university, I also started more actively searching for a way to become castrated as a first start into my new self. Unfortunately, this is rather difficult to accomplish in Germany, especially in the more conservative state of Bavaria I am living in. I had the thought of doing it myself since childhood (I actually had planned to cut off my glans on my fourteenth birthday as a start and to reduce my sensitivity as well as ability to orgasm, but backed off on that very day). But I'd rather not risk that, especially not without proper company to take care of me in case anything went wrong. Then I thought about finding an underground cutter to get the job done and had already chatted with some. But seriously, the results of many cutters looking like a slaughter fest deterred me from that, too. Unfortunately, the legal situation in Germany is that such a surgery is not permitted by professional medical personal if not medically necessary - especially if I'm not male-to-female transgender (our laws on the whole transgender topic are ancient and have rarely been updated since). Luckily, it doesn't matter if my transformation starts in one year or five or ten, as I highly doubt any significant changes to my body will occur over the next years due to my testosterone, as I'm already in my mid-twenties.

I identify as non-binary, having some sort of maleish-neutral identity (partly out of habit and laziness) and a female identity (which I'm yet too shy to live out in public, but I'm working on that). My goal is to lose my penis, testicle and scrotum, getting a urethral reroute and getting my prostate removed as well. I want my body to look as neutral as possible to allow me to easily switch between a male and a female appearance as I like it. I also want my libido to be gone as well as any capability of getting sexually stimulated (it just bothers me, and orgasms push me into a post-nut depression while oftenly underwhelming the climax). I know it will be a difficult task to accomplish, but I am serious about it, and I am fully aware of all the consequences. And honestly, I'd already be more than happy only getting castrated in a clean and safe way.

Well, that's for the beginning all there is to know about me. I'm looking forward to the exchanges and discussions happening on this site. If you'd like to know more about me or exchange your stories and experiences with me, feel free to write me. I promise I won't bite :-)

And thank you for keeping this place alive, where people like me can freely express themselves and write what they might never be able to write anywhere else without fear of being despised and outcasted!

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:10 pm
by Valery_V (imported)
narkosberim (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:35 pm Hello everybody and greetings from Germany!

For those of you who like short texts I will make the long story short and crisp:

I'm 25 years old, identify as non-binary, didn't develop too male and stayed rather short (luckily) and I want to get rid of my male genitals since basically ever. I've decided to join this forum because I am looking for exchange and possibly a way to make my dream come true here in Germany. While I'm not new to these kind of communities (I've been a member on some other sites as well), most other places have shut down by now and so I thought I'd give this forum a try.

Now the long story:

Like many of you I have always known that I am different. Due to a medical condition I was born with, I got semi-castrated before the age of six and - before that, due to the same condition - I got my entire foreskin removed. While the result worked and fixed the condition, my little member looked botched on the underside and also got circumcision marks at the upper base - an aesthetic horror I have since despised. Early on I did develop the wish to rather have my member gone completely and wished that they had removed the other testicle as well.

When puberty set on, I instantly disliked the changes to my body. Luckily, puberty turned out rather lazy on me. I stayed pretty small (even smaller than the average woman), did not develop a too deep voice, and at least when I shave my beard I still at times get asked whether I'm "already 16 years old". My member also kept tiny, when erect far below the average size even of a flaccid male member, and my little testicle also kept its tiny size.

Unfortunately, some (for my liking) too manly changes still occurred. My beard grows more or less normally, but with a density too low to look even slightly decent if I were to keep it growing, and at the same time with hairs too thick to shave it more than once a week (going to try a new razor next week, wish me luck!). I also despise the hair on the rest of my body, especially my legs and my crotch and butt. Furthermore, my libido is far stronger than I'd like it to be. It's been that way even since long before puberty, perhaps triggered or at least amplified through the surgeries. Yet I believe it would have been there even without the surgeries. If I get horny - and that since kindergarten age - it distracts me from my tasks and plans and leads me to spending too much time and energy on jacking off. And sometimes, even money (luckily though I'm still kinda stingy even when horny)...

Due to me knowing from young age that my member had been modified, I searched the internet and stumbled upon this whole thematic, which instantly caught my interest. And even before I discovered the world of eunuchs and people who by their own will seek to lose parts or all of their genitals, I knew I wanted my genitals gone and fantasized about it since childhood (and well, I also fantasized about other boys in my elementary school getting their members cut off - I was a very sexually active little fucker). Don't get me wrong, it's not a fantasy I get aroused to which then gets dismissed after reaching the climax (when the infamous post-nut-clarity sets in). The thought arouses me, yes, but it has always been there, and it is still there even after the orgasm.

Even before the beginning of puberty, around the age of ten, I already knew that I totally wanted to become a nullo. I disliked my male features, my erections, the ejaculations, the libido. Everything. At the same time, I also discovered my preference for more or less anything girly or female - especially wearing girls’ clothes (I found some sorted out clothes in our basement from my older sister which had been lying there since ever and wore them when I was alone at home, and boy did I feel free and happy wearing them). But I also knew that I did not want to live as a girl and become a woman as a whole. I wanted to be both: Male (even though more in a neutral sense) and female. In retrospective, I would have been the happiest if I did not have to go through puberty at all and were to grow up as a neutral, genderless being with the ability to switch between a male, a female and a neutral identity. If we're being honest, puberty did not do that much for me anyway, so I could have skipped that bit as well.

After reaching adulthood and moving into my own apartment for university, I also started more actively searching for a way to become castrated as a first start into my new self. Unfortunately, this is rather difficult to accomplish in Germany, especially in the more conservative state of Bavaria I am living in. I had the thought of doing it myself since childhood (I actually had planned to cut off my glans on my fourteenth birthday as a start and to reduce my sensitivity as well as ability to orgasm, but backed off on that very day). But I'd rather not risk that, especially not without proper company to take care of me in case anything went wrong. Then I thought about finding an underground cutter to get the job done and had already chatted with some. But seriously, the results of many cutters looking like a slaughter fest deterred me from that, too. Unfortunately, the legal situation in Germany is that such a surgery is not permitted by professional medical personal if not medically necessary - especially if I'm not male-to-female transgender (our laws on the whole transgender topic are ancient and have rarely been updated since). Luckily, it doesn't matter if my transformation starts in one year or five or ten, as I highly doubt any significant changes to my body will occur over the next years due to my testosterone, as I'm already in my mid-twenties.

I identify as non-binary, having some sort of maleish-neutral identity (partly out of habit and laziness) and a female identity (which I'm yet too shy to live out in public, but I'm working on that). My goal is to lose my penis, testicle and scrotum, getting a urethral reroute and getting my prostate removed as well. I want my body to look as neutral as possible to allow me to easily switch between a male and a female appearance as I like it. I also want my libido to be gone as well as any capability of getting sexually stimulated (it just bothers me, and orgasms push me into a post-nut depression while oftenly underwhelming the climax). I know it will be a difficult task to accomplish, but I am serious about it, and I am fully aware of all the consequences. And honestly, I'd already be more than happy only getting castrated in a clean and safe way.

Well, that's for the beginning all there is to know about me. I'm looking forward to the exchanges and discussions happening on this site. If you'd like to know more about me or exchange your stories and experiences with me, feel free to write me. I promise I won't bite :-)

And thank you for keeping this place alive, where people like me can freely express themselves and write what they might never be able to write anywhere else without fear of being despised and outcasted!

Thanks for your coming-out!

Re: Hello

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:32 am
by narkosberim (imported)
Thanks for your coming-out!

Thank you for adding me as a friend!

Re: Hello

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:17 pm
by WheelyCurious
Welcome to the forums, I hope you are able to find a solution to meet your goals...

I usually suggest talking with your local TG center and seeing what they say since you can now point at the new SOC 8, but I don't know how well that will work in Germany...

It does sound like you check just about all the boxes in the SOC 8 and would probably be able to apply stuff from the "Intersex" and "Non-binary" chapters as well as the Eunuch chapter. I'd question the wisdom of getting rid of the prostate given the likely continence issues that can cause, but otherwise seems like your goals SHOULD be achievable. I think you are very wise in avoiding the world of the cutters and similar high-risk methods.

I've heard some suggestions that things might be easier in the Netherlands, but have never looked into it since I'm in the US... I also have no idea about how cross-border stuff works in the EU, but it may be worth investigating.

Again, good luck in finding something that works for you.

WheelyCurious

Re: Hello

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:08 am
by narkosberim (imported)
WheelyCurious wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:17 pm Welcome to the forums, I hope you are able to find a solution to meet your goals...

I usually suggest talking with your local TG center and seeing what they say since you can now point at the new SOC 8, but I don't know how well that will work in Germany...

It does sound like you check just about all the boxes in the SOC 8 and would probably be able to apply stuff from the "Intersex" and "Non-binary" chapters as well as the Eunuch chapter. I'd question the wisdom of getting rid of the prostate given the likely continence issues that can cause, but otherwise seems like your goals SHOULD be achievable. I think you are very wise in avoiding the world of the cutters and similar high-risk methods.

I've heard some suggestions that things might be easier in the Netherlands, but have never looked into it since I'm in the US... I also have no idea about how cross-border stuff works in the EU, but it may be worth investigating.

Again, good luck in finding something that works for you.

WheelyCurious

Thank you very much, WheelyCurious!

I had actually written an email to my local TG group some time ago, but never gotten any response. Guess I'll just have to try it again or contact another group nearby. My other plan was contacting doctors and clinics specialized on TG not too far away from where I live and trying to find someone willing to help me any further (even if just by redirecting me to someone who might be of more help). Worst they can do is saying no anyway.

As far as I know after quickly googling it, SOC 8 doesn't have that much of an impact on Germany. It still might turn out helpful though, so thank you very much for mentioning it as I had not really been aware of that. H
narkosberim (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:35 pm onestly, I'd already be more than happy
with becoming "only" fully castrated. While I'd love to reach all my other goals mentioned, I see them more as luxury goals than indispensable, so if it turns out removing the prostate would be not worth the risk, I'd accept that.

I've read about neighboring countries possibly being more open to my wishes, too, so if I can't find any help here in Germany, I will try my luck there. Luckily, borders do not mean much anymore here in central Europa (thanks to the so-called Schengen area). Thus, crossing borders is no problem and I only will have to worry about possible language barriers (but I highly suspect doctors in central Europe to being able to speak and understand English).

Thank you very much.

Re: Hello

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:36 am
by Valery_V (imported)
I would really like to recommend the EA Archive Library to you.

Maybe you haven't visited it yet?

I found there for myself a lot of fantasy stories full of exciting adventures and relating to people like you and me...

I usually remember the name of the author of the story and use the search engine:

http://www.eunuchworld.org/s_index.php

Sometimes embedded systems help in the search:

http://www.eunuchworld.org/s_index2.php

http://www.eunuchworld.org/s_index3.php

Also try the additional search engine:

https://ea-tags.droppages.com/

Re: Hello

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:30 am
by T van Keel (imported)
narkosberim (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:08 am I've read about neighboring countries possibly being more open to my wishes, too, so if I can't find any help here in Germany, I will try my luck there.

Hello,

there are ways to get a nullification done legally in a clinic here in Germany. Once you know who to ask, it's pretty easy. I'm the living proof of that and also some others who had their surgery later. The biggest hurdle is to find a cooperative therapist to wrtite the necessary letters which are needed for the surgery. I had to travel about 5 hours to NRW for counseling with a suitable therapist because all therapistst near to me were too hesitant to support a male-to-nullo surgery. In case you are interested in more information, feel free to contact me.

Re: Hello

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:56 pm
by WheelyCurious
SOC 8 and other standards by similar groups don't have "Legal" standing anywhere as such. What they do is define the 'Gold Standard' of what sort of care SHOULD be provided to patients covered by them... Getting insurance and medical providers to actually provide those services can be a battle, unfortunately.

However without the standards asking for care outside the 'accepted norms' is likely to be ignored or considered not medically sound and be incredibly difficult to convince a doctor to provide it, let alone have insurance pay for it... The standards give you a more solid position as one can point at the standard and say that this is what the experts say is appropriate, why won't you do this...

Essentially it shifts most of the burden from you needing to prove that you need something to them needing to explain why they don't want to provide it...

WheelyCurious

Re: Hello

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:22 am
by HumanFly (imported)
narkosberim (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:35 pm Like many of you I have always known that I am different. Due to a medical condition I was born with, I got semi-castrated before the age of six and - before that, due to the same condition - I got my entire foreskin removed. While the result worked and fixed the condition, my little member looked botched on the underside and also got circumcision marks at the upper base - an aesthetic horror I have since despised. Early on I did develop the wish to rather have my member gone completely and wished that they had removed the other testicle as well.

What do you mean semi-castrated?

Re: Hello

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:16 am
by Losethem (imported)
HumanFly (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:22 am What do you mean semi-castrated?

"Semi-castrated" sounds a bit like, "a little bit pregnant..." Someone either is or isn't.

That said, I'm willing to hear narkosberim out, it could be the best way they have to describe their own situation, especially given they are from Germany, and English may be their second language.