• Can a Eunuch Hold and Love?

Posted: **Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:21 am**

Hi, Here I am recently castrated. Castration was a recent goal and it was a lifelong goal too. But I never wanted to be alone. I just was never able to find the trick to make holding and loving a happy and real thing in my life. So now, Im wondering (by no means regretting my new status) if I might now be able to Hold and Love? Have I made Holding and Loving an unnecessary thing? Are they still necessary things and do I still have something to offer? Do I still have something to be received? Am i now finally able to receive? Will I be able to give something of a person (me) who still wants to be connected?

Posted: **Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:45 am**

We are a hypersocial species. Studies have shown touch is a fundamental need to all members of our species, and that we perish quickly without it -- so do not neglect the needs you have, to the extent you feel them. Listen to your emotions and your body. Love is something located in the soul (as a Neoplatonist what I mean by this could be rougly equated to our sense of identity) and the mind, so is not impaired in any way by castration. As for esssential dignity, intrinsic value, and physical desirability, detesticulated folks are more frequently fetishised than rejected... which is perhaps not a comfort, but goes to illustrate that there is no barrier to the possibility of being deeply physically appreciated by other people.

So there is every reason to go out into the world with a good spirit.

Congratulations on your successful operation -- I only hope I can follow you soon!

Posted: **Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:56 pm**

magusuk89 (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:45 am We are a hypersocial species. Studies have shown touch is a fundamental need to all members of our species, and that we perish quickly without it -- so do not neglect the needs you have, to the extent you feel them. Listen to your emotions and your body. Love is something located in the soul (as a Neoplatonist what I mean by this could be rougly equated to our sense of identity) and the mind, so is not impaired in any way by castration. As for esssential dignity, intrinsic value, and physical desirability, detesticulated folks are more frequently fetishised than rejected... which is perhaps not a comfort, but goes to illustrate that there is no barrier to the possibility of being deeply physically appreciated by other people.

So there is every reason to go out into the world with a good spirit.

Congratulations on your successful operation -- I only hope I can follow you soon!

I fully support. Excellently said!

I join in the congratulations.

Posted: **Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:27 pm**

Love of the have and hold sort is something that happens when you are NOT intent on having a sexual experience (Though sex can be a part of it)... Getting rid of particular bits of sexual equipment may change what one is able to do in bed (or similar places...

) but doesn't change what you may be able to feel for another person...

Heinlein defined love as the condition where the happiness and wellbeing of another is essential to ones own happiness.... Nothing in there about boinking!

Due to our mutual disabilities and limitations, my GF and I have had little that most folks would consider sex beyond the minimal foreplay level, but we still love each other...

Romance is in the brain, not the balls....

WheelyCurious

Posted: **Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:26 am**

Love, fondness, whatever you call it, is all over the place. Anyone who looks at the animal clips so common now sees it is not limited to one species and can bond between species. Many horse owners know that. Any dog owner who treats their dog as family knows that. Any dog owner who keeps the dog outside on a chain or in a kennel does not know that. The raven that befriended me while I was building a fence around my front yard knew that. It is not that every individual can love every other individual. It is way beyond my simple human capabalities to understand how it works, but somehow bonds just develop. Unless you have built the wall and blocked yourself off.

Posted: **Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:52 am**

Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:26 am Love, fondness, whatever you call it, is all over the place. Anyone who looks at the animal clips so common now sees it is not limited to one species and can bond between species. Many horse owners know that. Any dog owner who treats their dog as family knows that. Any dog owner who keeps the dog outside on a chain or in a kennel does not know that. The raven that befriended me while I was building a fence around my front yard knew that. It is not that every individual can love every other individual. It is way beyond my simple human capabalities to understand how it works, but somehow bonds just develop. Unless you have built the wall and blocked yourself off.

yeah! i think i know too. recently a robin stuck with me a while when i was going for a walk in a park. always stopping and watching me and then wed move along. id do the same. there definitely was a connection

i want to add that the reason i originally asked the question is because i let my siblings know about my plan before i did it and they expressed reservations like i think you shouldnt do it. but i did and further conversation with them never happened. i think they dont want to talk about it, but maybe they have the notion that the ability to love would end. idk, but maybe.

Posted: **Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:56 am**

Just to be clear, my comments included humans as well as people-animal. There are people you just hit it off with as long as you are open. My accupuncturist (Eastern medicine) commented that people are like plants. There are different plants that when you put them together both die and others when you put them together both thrive.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:04 am**

dee2essohkay (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:21 am Hi, Here I am recently castrated. Castration was a recent goal and it was a lifelong goal too. But I never wanted to be alone. I just was never able to find the trick to make holding and loving a happy and real thing in my life. So now, Im wondering (by no means regretting my new status) if I might now be able to Hold and Love? Have I made Holding and Loving an unnecessary thing? Are they still necessary things and do I still have something to offer? Do I still have something to be received? Am i now finally able to receive? Will I be able to give something of a person (me) who still wants to be connected?

Can you love someone after castration? Why not, I say. The way you frame your question tells me you have plenty to give. It just won't include any of those little tadpoles.

I think you will find that as you settle into your new you, how and why you relate to those you find attractive will make a lot more sense. The other thing is I think you were castrated to become complete. You sound a bit like you feel like you're a bit less of a person without the knackers, but that's not so. Quite the reverse, if you ask me.

Stand tall, no-balls. Now you're who you were mean't to be.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:21 am**

BillyBlogs (imported) wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:04 am Can you love someone after castration? Why not, I say. The way you frame your question tells me you have plenty to give. It just won't include any of those little tadpoles.

I think you will find that as you settle into your new you, how and why you relate to those you find attractive will make a lot more sense. The other thing is I think you were castrated to become complete. You sound a bit like you feel like you're a bit less of a person without the knackers, but that's not so. Quite the reverse, if you ask me.

Stand tall, no-balls. Now you're who you were mean't to be.

Thanks. my biggest concern is not that I feel less, but that some important people in my life expressed reservations about my desire for the surgery prior to surgery, and then no longer made themselves available for further discussion. the possible insinuation that I might not be complete lingers as a thought combined with the awareness that I've always detached from love so I do wonder, now that I've been freed, will I finally have access to love?

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:40 am**

Short answer: of course!

Love isn't just hormones (such as oxytocin).

It's something that you can freely give and receive, using your rationale rather than hormones. So yes, if you feel freed, you can concentrate on other things.

Choose to love and your love reservoir will never run dry. Choose to be loved, be open to love.

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dee2essohkay (imported) wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:21 am . the possible insinuation that I might not be complete ...

Really? To me, this is a big WTF.

And if you were missing an arm or a leg, would be you be less lovable?

So in time of need, people don't make themselves available. That's when you discover your real friends/loved ones.

All the best!

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