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Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:00 pm
by raj1tm115 (imported)
Dear Friends,
I am a 48 year old from Australia diagnosed with Hypersexuality due to which I've been self-harming my privates since 15yo. They have proposed two treatment options
Option 1 Orchiectomy
Option 2 Chemical castration with Cyproterone or Zoladex
My desire if for Orchiectomy but unfortunately, this is not elective here in Australia - only chemical castration. I have been under depression due to this for a very long time and now I am desperately searching for surgery overseas in Thailand.
I would be grateful if someone can kindly guide me of how to move ahead with searching.
I read somewhere about Gender Nullification where elective orchiectomy is available in the US at
www.davisplasticsurgery.com. Any recommendation will be great ?
Blessings
Raj
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 6:15 pm
by raj1tm115 (imported)
Dear Friends,
After some frantic searching, I mailed the following clinics for orchiectomy
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www.srsatlanta.com
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www.davisplasticsurgery.com
Kindly let me know if there are similar ones in the US, especially ones that have it listed as elective surgery
Kind Regards, raj
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 6:28 pm
by WheelyCurious
There is at least one other member here on EA from Australia who is looking for castration and is apparently well on the way to getting the surgery locally...
I have no personal experience w/ the Australian medical system, but it sounds like you may be getting some bad information if you are being told it can't be done in OZ... Have you tried reaching out to any transgender clinics? It is also possible that the situation may get better shortly as we are told the new WPATH SOC 8, is supposed to be out really soon, and the drafts of it definitely make things easier.
It may also be the case that they will want you to do some length of time on chemical castration as a test before they will do the surgery.
I don't have any data on specific US surgical options other than to note that there seem to be several. However most of them will have at least some level of hoops you will have to jump through to get surgery. From what I've heard Mexico and Thailand are the best options if you want minimal questions asked surgery.
WheelyCurious
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:34 pm
by raj1tm115 (imported)
Hi WheelyCurious
Thanks heaps.
Early this year, I consulted a Urologist and he wanted confirmation that I was suffering from Psychiatric illness before he could proceed with surgery. That's when my exhausting journey started with almost five Psychiatrist's (public and private). They certainly agree that I have a Psychiatric condition and recommended chemical castration but were not willing for surgery.
My mistake - I have never thought I could try the transgender clinic and how.
Any Aussie's here please help me with pointer's please.... I am based in Melbourne
Kind Regards, raj
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:14 pm
by Valery_V (imported)
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 5:41 am
by BillyBlogs (imported)
Thanks Valery,
I've given Raj some information at the bottom of the thread you suggested.
Billy.
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 10:04 am
by seanthomas (imported)
You might think Oz was more open minded than it appears when it comes to elective orchiectomy but it seems the USA is miles ahead. I know of several surgeons who will do it with minimal if any hoops to jump through. Of course prices vary from reasonable to ridiculous but that’s American healthcare. I have seen reports here of a doctor in Atlanta who offers informed consent castration but at a price that seems outrageous.
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 1:50 pm
by Castor (imported)
seanthomas (imported) wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 10:04 am
You might think Oz was more open minded than it appears when it comes to elective orchiectomy but it seems the USA is miles ahead. I know of several surgeons who will do it with minimal if any hoops to jump through. Of course prices vary from reasonable to ridiculous but that’s American healthcare. I have seen reports here of a doctor in Atlanta who offers informed consent castration but at a price that seems outrageous.
From my own experience, it seems to me that the less evidence they require for castration, the higher the price for some urologists. But is this really so positive? I no longer see it necessarily as a disadvantage that such operations are performed so restrictively in Europe, unless they prevent an operation for which there is a well-founded indication. A good urologist asks for proof from a therapist before he removes something hastily. He just wants to prevent the patient from regretting the irreversible castration later.
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 3:52 pm
by WheelyCurious
Castor (imported) wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 1:50 pm
From my own experience, it seems to me that the less evidence they require for castration, the higher the price for some urologists. But is this really so positive? I no longer see it necessarily as a disadvantage that such operations are performed so restrictively in Europe, unless they prevent an operation for which there is a well-founded indication. A good urologist asks for proof from a therapist before he removes something hastily. He just wants to prevent the patient from regretting the irreversible castration later.
I greatly resent the 'gatekeepers' in many respects, but given how serious and lasting the effects of castration and similar surgeries are, I can see the need for some level of making REALLY sure about 'informed consent' being certain and well informed... To be restrictive to the point where people feel driven to seek cutters or DIY solutions because they have a hard time getting medical support is bad as far as I'm concerned. However a clearly spelled out path with not hugely difficult hoops to jump through doesn't seem unreasonable...
I think the Draft SOC 8 when it finally gets released will be a pretty good match for this - they want a minimum 6 month chemical test drive, and ONE letter of approval... They say that therapy can be helpful and suggesting it is OK, but it is NOT supposed to be required. It doesn't sound unreasonable, and so far my experience is pretty much in line with that. The proof will be if / when I start looking to get surgery, but the chemicals have been easy.
Where I really get frustrated / infuriated is when I look at research and the huge barriers between experimental treatments in lab animals and giving them to people.... There are lots of lab animals that have gotten different treatments for induced SCI's and shown MAJOR improvements - but NONE of these get tried on human patients no matter how much we BEG for it.... I'm not wanting any sort of forced experimentation, but that I'm not ALLOWED to 'roll the dice' and try some of these things, being fully aware that they are experimental and might make me worse or kill me is totally infuriating....
WheelyCurious
Re: Elective Bilateral Orchiectomy
Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 10:05 pm
by Castor (imported)
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WheelyCurious wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 3:52 pm
they want a minimum 6 month chemical test drive, and ONE letter of approval... They say that therapy can be helpful and suggesting it is OK, but it is NOT supposed to be required. It doesn't sound unreasonable, and so far my experience is pretty much in line with that. The proof will be if / when I start looking to get surgery, but the chemicals have been easy.
WheelyCurious
I can only fully agree with this. What is needed is an acceptable balance between the concerns of the surgeons/therapists and the wishes of the patient. If the process is so tough that one has to run into the arms of cutters, this should give those responsible food for thought. Dr. Wassersug warned about this stupid situation in one of his many articles years ago. Slowly, something finally seems to be moving in a positive direction.