Hello all,

I figure it is time to introduce myself, rather than lurk in the forums. Where to begin...

I saw the first image of someone nullified more than 10 years ago. I knew the instant I saw it, that was what I was meant to be. I never figured anyone could get that done and how that person did seemed like "must have known a surgeon or something".

Fast forward to present day and I found a nullo guy on Twitter. I messaged him and he gave me information on the Crane Center. From there I went down the rabbit hole of possibilities. Looking at requirements, I immediately started taking the steps needed to go forward - first being behavioral therapy for a proper diagnosis (I had my first session today). I feel a wicked sense of urgency now. It's been 10+ years of having this knowledge of what I wanted and feeling like I could never have it. And now I can. More online reading and this site was referenced. So here I am.

The part that I find difficult is what to say about my gender. I am male, identify as male, and will continue to identify as male after my procedure. I don't think that is something therapists, and those who keep the gate to surgery, will want to hear.

Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated. Any questions will be answered.

Cheers to you all

It's not your fault.Just say what's your real thought,your gender can not be appointed.

But honestly,you can't get surgery if you say that,maybe you can be a trans temporary, after all you done the surgery,you are on your own.

Congratulations! You have come to the right site and found yourself among like-minded people.

As you speak to doctors: "

SlipperyOtter (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:55 pm I am male, identify as male, and will continue to identify as male after my procedure.

" You correctly assume: "I do no

SlipperyOtter (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:55 pm t think that is something therapists, and those who keep the gate to surgery, will want to hear.

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I became an eunuch in my youth, but I always claimed that I am asexual that I do not see myself as the father of family. Maybe my position ... was convincing enough?

blackblack (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 pm It's not your fault.Just say what's your real thought,your gender can not be appointed.

But honestly,you can't get surgery if you say that,maybe you can be a trans temporary, after all you done the surgery,you are on your own.

I've thought about the temporary trans concept. I don't think I could live as female for a year to appease some people who think they know what's best for me. I've been reading over the WPATH standards of care. Hoping I can find some loophole.

I'm also thinking I need to get over the idea that I am "male". The idea of being non-gender binary doesn't bother me at all. I don't fit into that norm; never have.

I guess we shall see how it goes.

Thank you for the reply.

I think I will have to be willing to change how I speak about my gender. I've spent a lot of time thinking about it since my initial visit with the LMCW. I honestly think I'm both. That's the point of working with someone, right? Finding the words to correctly define who I am?

I'm jealous of your eunuch-hood. I wish I could make that happen more quickly. I think it would be a great step to self discovery.

SlipperyOtter (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:18 pm I've thought about the temporary trans concept. I don't think I could live as female for a year to appease some people who think they know what's best for me. I've been reading over the WPATH standards of care. Hoping I can find some loophole.

I'm also thinking I need to get over the idea that I am "male". The idea of being non-gender binary doesn't bother me at all. I don't fit into that norm; never have.

I guess we shall see how it goes.

Thank you for the reply.

The new WPATH standards of care should be out somewhat soon. There will be a chapter on eunuchs and another on non-binary folks, and their standards of care.

I'm looking forward to it. I recently read the current version. So, the new one should be interesting. Their website says spring. Fingers crossed.

SlipperyOtter (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:04 pm I'm looking forward to it. I recently read the current version. So, the new one should be interesting. Their website says spring. Fingers crossed.

Patience is the key to it. It has been about 2-3 years getting to here, and it will be good. I've already read the two chapters above; they will be very helpful.

Congrats! You have been taking your first steps! They were exciting for me as well. When I talked to my PCP I had told him that I wanted to be in between the two sexes. 9 months later and I am now wanting to start low dose estrogen to see what it does to my body and to see if I like how it feels over testosterone. After your procedure, the view of yourself might change and grow. I wish you luck on your continuing journey ^.^

justapup (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:53 am Congrats! You have been taking your first steps! They were exciting for me as well. When I talked to my PCP I had told him that I wanted to be in between the two sexes. 9 months later and I am now wanting to start low dose estrogen to see what it does to my body and to see if I like how it feels over testosterone. After your procedure, the view of yourself might change and grow. I wish you luck on your continuing journey ^.^

If you didn't take "T" after the procedure You will definitely begin to feel different after several months. The change in feeling will take place slowly. Don't dispare, be patient. I only took "E" with no progesterone. Some say that makes a difference. I don't know if it does or not. Please use medical advice as you plan to do. I didn't and perhaps am paying the price for it. Not that I am unhappy with the end results but be prepared.