Some of you know that I am a Christian and I do not make any excuses for that. And we are coming up on a holiday.. It is Christmas. The birth of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ's birthday party. But the points I want to make tonight is. Many of my Christian friends look down their noses at me as a fag.. A gay.. A homosexual. I could care less and don't sweat that at all. I live with Bobby and many of you see him as a prick. But I look it as, I am old now.. 70 years old and if I get sick and need help he is there in the house to take care of me. When I need to go for Colonscopy or a Cystoscopy he is there to go with me and take care of me and at 70 years old, I need someone like that. My peers in Christian circles look down at me because I live with another man.. But I am glad he is there. Even more so as we have COVID.. I have another Christian friend who's wife died 10 or more years ago now. He is alone with COVID and there is no one in the home to care of him. I attempt to check on him everyday and he doesn't always answer his phone so I worry. Yeah, having someone else in the house is important and needed! Living alone sucks. Who cares what other's think.. Our own heart is what is important.. And heart says it is OK to live with Bob and still be a Christian.

I am very glad for you that you can, as you should, reconcile your own homosexuality with your own understanding of your religion. Kudos!

As a non-religions questioner, I always feel a need to remind athiests/agnostics (who somehow think I directly align with them) that it doesn't matter what we believe when with people who are genuinely comforted, and not pushy about, their religion; we all chose our method toward peace, and it's not up to any of us to interfere with another's methods.

I was raised in the United Church (Church Lite, as my baptist friends say), and as I understand it, they lean towards acceptance of us gay folk.

A very touching and heartfelt post, thank you for doing that. I too am a Christian and it's hard to reconcile being gay but I cling to the fact that nothing can separate us from God as a Christian. I've been unchurched for over 15 years because others just don't accept me and try to take advantage of my talents in technology. It's very disappointing.

I'm younger than you but I've lived alone for 32 years now in my own house and you are spot on with your thoughts and concerns about

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:28 pm having someone else in the house.

I am actually looking for a houseboi who would enjoy being with a nullo Daddy. It would be so nice to have a loving relationship and share life and travel with a younger houseboi. A submissive eunuch or nullo would be a perfect fit for 2 great guys to be together. Funny you should mention a colonoscopy because I've been due for one for about 5 years but don't have someone to help drive me home afterwards. Because I'm self employed and make my own schedule, I think about should I choke on a chicken bone, it could be 3 weeks before I'm missed and somebody starts looking for me.

Thank you for being who you are and feeling comfortable sharing your life. May you and everyone here who is a Christian have a very Merry Christmas and happy new year. Hopefully 2022 becomes a great year and even more accepting of others, including us eunuchs and nullo brothers.

keyman

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:28 pm Some of you know that I am a Christian and I do not make any excuses for that. And we are coming up on a holiday.. It is Christmas. The birth of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ's birthday party. But the points I want to make tonight is. Many of my Christian friends look down their noses at me as a fag.. A gay.. A homosexual. I could care less and don't sweat that at all. I live with Bobby and many of you see him as a prick. But I look it as, I am old now.. 70 years old and if I get sick and need help he is there in the house to take care of me. When I need to go for Colonscopy or a Cystoscopy he is there to go with me and take care of me and at 70 years old, I need someone like that. My peers in Christian circles look down at me because I live with another man.. But I am glad he is there. Even more so as we have COVID.. I have another Christian friend who's wife died 10 or more years ago now. He is alone with COVID and there is no one in the home to care of him. I attempt to check on him everyday and he doesn't always answer his phone so I worry. Yeah, having someone else in the house is important and needed! Living alone sucks. Who cares what other's think.. Our own heart is what is important.. And heart says it is OK to live with Bob and still be a Christian.

"Christians" who look down on others are in my opinion not Christian. Jesus said heal the sick, care for the poor, and overall be good people. Sadly, in the US at least, most of those who call themselves Christian tend to show me they don't live up to the principles of it. If their view is God created everyone and everything, then they should accept God created gay people, trans people, people of color, etc., otherwise they are not being Christian. I believe I know what they are, but we don't talk politics here, so I'll keep that thought to myself.

Homosexuality is not incompatible with Christianity, but I've met many "Christians" who are. I'm glad you're not one of those OBB.

I saw a meme a few days ago that said "Put the Christ back in Christmas? How about putting the Christ back in Christian." IMHO, followers of Christ should be compassionate, and "shunning" someone else because they are not "like me" is unbecoming to any human being, Christian, atheist, or whatever. I am old enough to have grown up at a time when being transgender or gay was considered a kind of mental illness or, worse in the case of being gay, a "lifestyle choice." While attitudes change, they do so slowly, and many Christians still think that way, especially about transgender people, and this may be part of the problem.

I am not qualified to post any quick solutions, nor give theological advice, but every human being deserves respect and to be left alone as long as they are not harming anybody else (and, no, just living or just being you is not harming anybody else).

I grew up in a very devout Christian faith (mormonism) it's pretty unforgiving on things like homosexuality, so when I was old enough to leave the church I did exactly that. I didn't see any point in being part of a religion where I am not wanted. The breaking point for me was in 1984, watching a story on the local news (the CBS affiliate was owned by the church as part of it's Bonneville Media empire, and the NBC affiliate was soft on the church, so it was up to the ABC affiliate to provide stories there weren't always complimentary to the church). This story was about a 17 year old boy, dying of AIDS alone in the hospital, disowned by his family, and shunned by his church. I remember thinking, what belief system can leave anyone to die alone, abandoned at the most vulnerable point of life any of us will ever experience. That was when I became less willing to call myself a Christian, even though I still think the teaching of Christ were and are good influences to hold, far too many bastardize his teachings, using his name to justify hate, and judgement. Christ himself never said a thing about homosexuality. His teachings were only about love, acceptance, forgiveness and benevolence. It's all the hate in the Old Testament, Christians cling to to make their hateful speech and judgement. To me it's never made any sense that Christians use the Old Testament at all.

I grew up in a small Idaho farming town and we went to a pretty conservative church. 60s church attire was a black suit, white shirt, narrow black tie. The breaking point for me was when a family came in wearing work clothes that obviously had been washed and ironed for church. I looked around and half the people in their faces showed their displeasure. My teenage mind focused on that and I remember thinking that eternity is a long time and I sure as hell didn't want to spend it in heaven with people like that.

Now, as an adult, I now have to admit that half the people did not look at them in disgust and a few even went over afterwards to welcome them. I now realize that life is complicated and any statement lumping all people of any group reflect as much on the person making that statement as on the group.

Just to be clear - that person being me thru my 40s.

I can remember those instances. When it happened in a church my grandfather was pastoring, (Church of God..Anderson Indiana group) he seldom let members get away with that type of behavior. Most churches I have been associated with always had a few who did it. They were always members of the "senior group" (my age now and a little earlier...thats the 60+ and older.

jamiepan (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:47 pm I am very glad for you that you can, as you should, reconcile your own homosexuality with your own understanding of your religion. Kudos!

As a non-religions questioner, I always feel a need to remind athiests/agnostics (who somehow think I directly align with them) that it doesn't matter what we believe when with people who are genuinely comforted, and not pushy about, their religion; we all chose our method toward peace, and it's not up to any of us to interfere with another's methods.

I was raised in the United Church (Church Lite, as my baptist friends say), and as I understand it, they lean towards acceptance of us gay folk.

Of course, you're also Canadian if you were brought up in the United Church. We're fortunate that most religious groups in Canada now accept 'gay' as a norm, even Baptists as far as I know. Re nation states, Canada was a bit late in acceptance of a gay norm, but it did so in a totally whole way back in 1979 when the group of 'statesmen' representing the three political parties then represented in the Parliament - Conservative, Liberal, New Democrat - that assumed responsibility for drawing up the Charter of Rights and Freedoms accepted that gay (LGBTQ) rights would be protected as well. Of course, most still do not provide official sanction to gay marriage, the United Church being a prominent exception. This acceptance is now thankfully becoming a global norm and is of course also accepted constitutionally in the USA. Tragically, most of Africa and the nations of the former Soviet Union and to a lesser extent those of the former Warsaw Pact are bringing up the rear.