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Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:51 am
by MikeStone (imported)
In ancient time, when they clamped scrotum by ancient clamp (in Roman times), what do you think, the testicles were under or above each other? Is there any illustration, schematic diagram of this? (I don’t want to use it, I’m just curious.)

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:14 am
by Paolo
Ones like these?

Cybele’s castration clamps – medical apparatus of the Magna Mater – Roger Pearse (roger-pearse.com) (https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/201 ... gna-mater/)

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:19 am
by Valery_V (imported)
Paolo wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:14 am Ones like these?

Cybele’s castration clamps – medical apparatus of the Magna Mater – Roger Pearse (roger-pearse.com) (https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/201 ... gna-mater/)

Damn, looking at these clamps gives me phantom pains :)

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:13 am
by MikeStone (imported)
yes
Paolo wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:14 am https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/
wp-content/uploads/2015/10/castration_clamp_restoration.jpg

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:09 am
by magusuk89 (imported)
I am pretty sure they are believed to have been used as haemostats in surgery rather than burdizzos.

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:22 am
by Paolo
According to Sex in History by R. Tannahill:

The loop was to keep the penis out of harm's way, while the scrotum and testicles were secured in the jaws of the clamp. They were then sliced off in one stroke. The cut edge was then either stitched up or cauterized. While more painful, it is reputed to have not been any more dangerous than a modern vasectomy. - paraphrased

Apparently they had high survival rate.

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:25 pm
by Boogie77 (imported)
Many years ago as a young boy I assisted my uncle as he castrated the young pigs. My recollection is that I would hold the pig’s two hind legs while he sliced open the testicles and sliced them off. I think he just put some axle grease in the cavity and turned them loose. There was no attempt at sewing anything up. Seems like they did fine. Not sure what they did with the male calves but they would have done much the same. Then they were steers. In mature stallions they sometimes have to castrate them because they become too unruly. That is a bit of a chore and very dangerous. A kick in the head is probably fatal.

In all three cases the penis is located some distance from the testicles so no problem with getting to the testicles.

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:04 pm
by erikboy (imported)
I wonder how many balls have fallen off of this clamp. 100? 1000?

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:18 pm
by Paolo
Seems like they did fine.

Arterial spasm, as I understand it. In animals, the severed arteries will clench up in many cases, preventing bleeding out. Back in the days of hunting and trapping, you'd sometimes see animal had chewed its foot off and left. Humans tend not to have this built-in survival tool!

Re: Ancient clamp

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:37 pm
by talula
I donno Paolo. When you fart, I go through some serious spasms. Hehe