So I have been reading loads of historical accounts of Eunuchs and have been comparing it to some modern stuff I have been seeing that has brought up some questions.

How is it that many years ago Eunuchs went entirely without hormones, but today it is almost unheard of?

Is it just with how the world is now? I mean is it the foods we eat that make the lack of hormones cause mental issues?

Another question I have is about the osteoporosis. It's proven that men's bones are more dense than women. So it makes me wonder where the density of Eunuchs bones should be? Would the density loss ever stabilize or does it just continue hollowing out your bones over time? Do they have studies on this?

I ask as I haven't been on any hormones for 10 weeks now and my pcp doesn't want me to get bloodwork done until November. I am very happy without all the male aggressiveness and other urges brought on by the stuff and am not sure if I ever want to take it again. I am very happy with this new calm I have been slipping into.

After castration, testosterone continues to be produced by the body, albeit in smaller quantities.

You are absolutely right. Testosterone continues to be produced in miniscule amounts by the adrenal glands. True, I have not measured its level for a long time. But I eat meat.

Times ago, testosterone replacement was more difficult to get. And before T was discovered, T replacement wasn't an option. Younger people seem to have less side effects than older ones. Especially osteoporosis, but years without T, will reduce bone density significantly, so that people who had lived without T for tens of years, will certainly suffer from osteoporosis. Modern medicine helps to fight osteoporosis. Monitor the process and take preventive steps. Hopefully someday a T replacement hormone will be invented, that leaves bones intact, but eliminates sex drive and other related functions.

erikboy (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:35 am Times ago, testosterone replacement was more difficult to get. And before T was discovered, T replacement wasn't an option. Younger people seem to have less side effects than older ones. Especially osteoporosis, but years without T, will reduce bone density significantly, so that people who had lived without T for tens of years, will certainly suffer from osteoporosis. Modern medicine helps to fight osteoporosis. Monitor the process and take preventive steps. Hopefully someday a T replacement hormone will be invented, that leaves bones intact, but eliminates sex drive and other related functions.

How do you think whether the risk of developing of osteoporosis at healthy nutrition decreases?

erikboy (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:35 am Times ago, testosterone replacement was more difficult to get. And before T was discovered, T replacement wasn't an option. Younger people seem to have less side effects than older ones. Especially osteoporosis, but years without T, will reduce bone density significantly, so that people who had lived without T for tens of years, will certainly suffer from osteoporosis. Modern medicine helps to fight osteoporosis. Monitor the process and take preventive steps. Hopefully someday a T replacement hormone will be invented, that leaves bones intact, but eliminates sex drive and other related functions.

There is Nandrolone or deca durabolin that may be able to help. It is a steroid quite popular with female athletes ,

It has all the properties of testosterone but lacks its androgenic effects.

Some folks do a 50 50 split between testosterone cypionate and Nandrolone.

I usually mix the stuff up(If its equal strength) into a vial previously to make the shots a whole lot easier.

But I have just tried neat nandrolone in the past for a while and its been ok.

ambiguous (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:43 am There is Nandrolone or deca durabolin that may be able to help. It is a steroid quite popular with female athletes ,

It has all the properties of testosterone but lacks its androgenic effects.

Some folks do a 50 50 split between testosterone cypionate and Nandrolone.

I usually mix the stuff up(If its equal strength) into a vial previously to make the shots a whole lot easier.

But I have just tried neat nandrolone in the past for a while and its been ok.

Oooo, thank you! That is something I would consider chatting with my pcp about.

The trouble is with Nandrolone is it is a steroid and may not be on the registry of any local practice as its a controlled medication.

I get mine from a bodybuilding steroid site.

justapup (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:00 am How is it that many years ago Eunuchs went entirely without hormones, but today it is almost unheard of?

This is something I've been wondering about, as well. What makes it more curious to me is that from what I have read, ancient eunuchs were often known to live longer than the average person. (Maybe their low T helped to keep them from getting into fights.)

What I eventually concluded (with a bit more research), way back in the era when these eunuchs were alive, the average human life expectancy was a lot shorter than it is today (about 40 years, even up to the end of the 1700's). So, even if they lived longer than average, they likely didn't live long enough to have serious osteoporosis problems.

Nonads_85 (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:38 am This is something I've been wondering about, as well. What makes it more curious to me is that from what I have read, ancient eunuchs were often known to live longer than the average person. (Maybe their low T helped to keep them from getting into fights.)

What I eventually concluded (with a bit more research), way back in the era when these eunuchs were alive, the average human life expectancy was a lot shorter than it is today (about 40 years, even up to the end of the 1700's). So, even if they lived longer than average, they likely didn't live long enough to have serious osteoporosis problems.

Addressing your concerns of osteoporosis, as a permanent chemical eunuch, I have been experiencing very low testosterone levels and have developed osteopenia (precursor to osteoporosis). As preemptive measures, I got my PCP to prescribe me Fosamax (alendronate), which reduces bone metabolism and slows further deterioration of the bones.

After 2 bone density scans, my bones did deteriorate a little more, but according to the doctor, not alarmingly so.

With Fosamax, I was able to reduce my testosterone replacement to half dose. And my testosterone level is only in the marginally low but acceptable range. It is adequate to keep my depression and fatigue off. But although my libido returned a bit, it is not bothersome as before.