evolve (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:17 pm Im eight months post op and thus far, I’m still out only to the surgeon who got me from Point Almond Joy to Point Mounds.

I’d like to be out with my family and a few friends. However, I can’t get past the likely thoughts they’d have about my voluntarily nixing my man jewels. It would be easier t just say it was a medical( ie cancer) related necessity, but if course, that wouldn’t be an honest explanation.

My question to those voluntarily cut who are out, post op- How did you broach this topic when you came out? Was it via the medical necessity alibi or did you give it straight as to why you went through with the procedure?

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:33 am Betty Ford hasbeen for many years been a hero to me. At a time when women never talked about breast cancer, she refused to have her mastectomy in secret.

Instead, Mrs. Ford wanted to make information about her surgery public. As a result, awareness of breast cancer increased and undoubtedly women's lives were saved.

@Evolve01, your castration is a private matter and you have the right to keep it to yourself. Coming "out" to your family and friends would help in so many ways.

Revealing your surgery would help break down the walls of secrecy that surrounds MtE. Many people have no idea how man men desperately want their testicles removed - they will only feel "whole" after a surgeon removes them.

The more men talk about castration and having had it done, the more surgeons will hear about it. If the knowledge about the procedure becomes more commonplace, it will result in surgeons understand how common the desire is. In that future world, doctors will look at a patient's request to be castrated or have nullification surgery as being normal and not an outlandish request.

Safety. if MtE men talk about their experience and doctors start to understand it is not a rare desire, it will create a world where men won't have to turn to back-alley cutters and they will be able to stay safe.

In the 1970s Harvey Milk said that gay rights would not be won in the courthouse, at the ballot box, nor from a vote i congress. He said gay rights would be won at the family dinner table and he was right.

@Evolve01, you must do what will keep you safe and secure in your family. You are, however, in a position to explain to people who already love you that you had a surgery that made you feel whole. It was not elective surgery. You can explain to your family that the procedure was done safely by a trained and licensed medical expert and that you are grateful the doctor was willing to do because, your only other option would have been to use a cutter or to go to Mexico or Thailand to a clinic where you would have been alone, scared, and in danger.

If you are asked why you didn't tell your family sooner so that they could have gone with you for moral support and to offer you a place to convalesce? Tell them that you were afraid of being judged. However, now that it is done, you don't want secrets from your loved one.

Regarding needing to lie about the procedure having been medically needed - there is no need to lie. It was, in fact, medically required. Had you not had the surgery with a real doctor, you might have turned to a cutter and that would have resulted in a disaster.

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:33 am Betty Ford hasbeen for many years been a hero to me. At a time when women never talked about breast cancer, she refused to have her mastectomy in secret.

Instead, Mrs. Ford wanted to make information about her surgery public. As a result, awareness of breast cancer increased and undoubtedly women's lives were saved.

@Evolve01, your castration is a private matter and you have the right to keep it to yourself. Coming "out" to your family and friends would help in so many ways.

Revealing your surgery would help break down the walls of secrecy that surrounds MtE. Many people have no idea how man men desperately want their testicles removed - they will only feel "whole" after a surgeon removes them.

The more men talk about castration and having had it done, the more surgeons will hear about it. If the knowledge about the procedure becomes more commonplace, it will result in surgeons understand how common the desire is. In that future world, doctors will look at a patient's request to be castrated or have nullification surgery as being normal and not an outlandish request.

Safety. if MtE men talk about their experience and doctors start to understand it is not a rare desire, it will create a world where men won't have to turn to back-alley cutters and they will be able to stay safe.

In the 1970s Harvey Milk said that gay rights would not be won in the courthouse, at the ballot box, nor from a vote i congress. He said gay rights would be won at the family dinner table and he was right.

@Evolve01, you must do what will keep you safe and secure in your family. You are, however, in a position to explain to people who already love you that you had a surgery that made you feel whole. It was not elective surgery. You can explain to your family that the procedure was done safely by a trained and licensed medical expert and that you are grateful the doctor was willing to do because, your only other option would have been to use a cutter or to go to Mexico or Thailand to a clinic where you would have been alone, scared, and in danger.

If you are asked why you didn't tell your family sooner so that they could have gone with you for moral support and to offer you a place to convalesce? Tell them that you were afraid of being judged. However, now that it is done, you don't want secrets from your loved one.

Regarding needing to lie about the procedure having been medically needed - there is no need to lie. It was, in fact, medically required. Had you not had the surgery with a real doctor, you might have turned to a cutter

evolve (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:07 pm and that would have resulted in a disaster.

Thanks, TopMan for the advice and perspective. I think the important thing I hope to accomplish by coming out is awareness. I’m hopeful that greater awareness will equal greater acceptance. Greater acceptance hopefully leads to m