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How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:39 am
by Ronald-zsy (imported)
I just found this in a medical book
Check this here
https://imgur.com/a/3ZqSJ5O
How sperm survived in a castrated 15-year-old boy for more than 19 days?
Does this mean it's still possible to do sperm storage in a short time after castration?
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:30 pm
by kristoff
Link does not work.
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:07 pm
by Paolo
It just takes a long time to come up. Apparently, Imgur is having issues today. It's a chart with the x-axis being days, and the y-axis being sperm count mill/ejaculate. 10 days after castration, the count was 23.1 million, dropping to 2.3 million at the 19 day mark, thus warranting freezing what they could get. The chart also notes that the boy suffered from delayed discovery of bilateral testicular torsion, warranty removal of both.
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:26 pm
by JesusA (imported)
What was posted was Figure 13.1 of a much longer article. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the source to find out more information. I suspect that there is more useful information there.
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:05 pm
by fhunter
https://books.google.ru/books?id=mEgckD ... 22+delayed +discovery+of+testicular+torsion&source=bl&ots=1G-AbXCiLb&sig=ACfU3U1lhhIKMaYC7dc-xl-_-6lJX_FvKA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjHhbG1jabsAhU5DWMBHfw8CBEQ6AEwAHoECAEQA g#v=onepage&q=%22days%20after%20bilateral%20orchidectomy%22%20 delayed%20discovery%20of%20testicular%20torsion&f=false found source.
Not sure how to copy from there. It is on google books. Source is "Andrology: Male Reproductive Health and Dysfunction
edited by Eberhard Nieschlag, Hermann M. Behre, Susan Nieschlag"
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:06 pm
by Philcheck (imported)
Castration like a vasectomy in the only respect stops the sperm from reaching the prostate in one form by severing the vas deferen. Had a vasectomy back in 2006 myself and Doctor educates everyone that it does not render a male instantly sterile. In order to get the all clear from the doctor I had to provide three semen samples that showed no sperm at all in the sample. I was told to only provide my first sample after I had X number of ejaculations. Can't recall the exact number but it was to clear out the pipes. Sperm hides not only in testicles but in the vas and prostate for sometime.
So in short unless that 15 yr old got busy with masturbation or sex after being castrated, sperm would be still in system for days even to many weeks.
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:56 pm
by Paolo
Given that he was castrated due to 'late' diagnosis of testicular torsion, I'd say that masturbation or even sex was the LAST thing on his mind. While I never had it, I've known a few people who have, and it's probably the understatement of all time to say that it hurt.
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:37 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Vasectomy drs routinely warm patients that sperm in their reproductive system that were already located in their reproductive system remain fully fertile outside the testis. Any sperm located above the place where a vasectomy cuts and blocks off the vas deferens sperm tube, which supply sperm leaving the testicle, can remain fertile for months. Often 3 months is a time used. Most men don t get tested for sperm free semen until after they have 30 or more ejaculations after their vasectomies. Being outside the testis does not affect sperm fertility within the male reproductive tract after sperm leave the testis. Most sperm mature while stored inside of the epididymis, which are the big thick vertical tubes located just outside each testicle. You can feel them on the back side of each testicle by hand.
Most males do get intensely painful balls during testicular torsions. But a few males can have torsions that ache but then go numb from lack of blood circulation. These less painful testicular torsions can still castrate testis by twisting off the blood supply to the balls in spasming spermatic cords. Just like the very painful torsions can. The less painful torsions are more likely to be slept through or ignored until irrevesable damage is done to the testicle or both testicles that twisted on their spermatic cords. These can also be intermittant torsions which sometimes slowly castrate over many different torsions by causing accumulated damage over long periods of time. Much like repeated, short, elastration bandings can do to men over long periods of time by accumulating damage to balls. Even male babies can end up castrated by testicular torsions occuring in the womb before birth.
Testicular torsion is frequently missed or misdiagnosed and the death of the affected testicles results from lack of immediate orchiopexy surgery or manual detorsion by hand by drs in the emergency room. That results in many lawsuits. Injecting muscle relaxants or local pain killers can sometimes relax twisted spermatic cords to increase blood flow to extend the time to get treatment before testicles die from lack of blood flow and oxygen.
Re: How could sperm survive in the body for more than 19 days without testicles?
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:10 am
by seanthomas (imported)
Paolo wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:56 pm
Given that he was castrated due to 'late' diagnosis of testicular torsion, I'd say that masturbation or even sex was the LAST thing on his mind. While I never had it, I've known a few people who have, and it's probably the understatement of all time to say that it hurt.
With Bell Clapper deformity often the cord(s) can twist just enough to diminish blood flow, resulting in mild to moderate pain and yet slowly killing the testicle(s) over time. The danger is taking an analgesic to reduce the pain. Pain is your body’s way of saying “something ain’t right” and analgesics just tell your body to shut the F up.