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Uro referral

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:04 pm
by Philcheck (imported)
I have had chronic testicural, groin and abdominal area pain after a surgery just over 10 years ago. Went as far as now being on my second pheripheral nerve stimulator to control the pain. The last two months have been a game changer for me I can't take it anymore and the device isn't controling some of it anymore. I even noticed that when in a flare which is on my right side of the groin that the right testical grows to the size of a golf ball almost. Very sensitive to the touch. Today those symptoms and my doctor appointment coincided and the doc saw it for himself. He was shocked at the size of three times the size of the left side.

He commented something is not right at all. He said the source of some if not all my pain might be from damage to the structures supporting the testicle. He is referring me to a urologist for followup and sending my records over also. He commented that it might be time for the decision for at least me and my right testicle to part ways. I'm so done with this pain and so many ways nervous and happy for that call to make that appointment. I hope the urologist listens and sees what I've been thru since 2009.

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:30 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Sorry to hear how much pain and trouble you ve had. 11 years of pain is a long time to endure for any man. I hope the urologist can do a full checkup for you and see what s going on inside of you by ultrasound or cat scan or similar tests to try to locate the causes. What kind of surgery did you have 10 years ago ?

Your age is in the most popular age range for voluntary castrations and before prostate cancer gets more common in later ages. If you are done with your fertility and baby making, losing your right testicle might not be so bad. One healthy ball can do the work of 2 balls in both sperm and testosterone production. You just want to be sure the problem is caused by your right testicle, and that giving him up so permanently will stop your pain. You d be screwed if you give up one ball and it doesn t help stop or reduce your pains. Maybe ask the urologist to completely numb your left ball with temporary lidocaine injections to see if that stops your pain ?

Your primary dr sounds very smart and practical and not afraid of castrating men. More drs should be comfortable suggesting castration for men that are in pain. And for men who don t need or want active sperm factories as non breeders or in the decades after they finished making babies. Especially since men have 2 balls by nature s design to have an expendable spare ball and still have one left working solo.

Good luck with your urologist. Keep us updated on what happens. Thanks for your post in this section of the EA. Other men with similar pains and problems can benefit from hearing your experiences.

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:56 pm
by Philcheck (imported)
I will need to stress and explain to the urologist how much pain and how long this has been going on. It's not a simple case obviously but I'm tired and the pain needs to end.

I had a laproscopic colon resection in 2009 and it failed and I became septic. I was rushed in for emergency surgery to redo it and ended up with a colostomy bag for a few months. The doctors have said that several nerve branches in my lower right abdomen where the colostomy was located were damaged or cut. As a result of this I have had 10 surgeries total and chronic pain on the inside of my right thigh, groin and testicle. Often feels like getting stabbed with needles or kicked down there suddenly if my nerve stimulator isn't controling the pain.

Try driving a car sitting at a light when suddenly out of the blue it feels like a knife ripping your sack apart and you can understand my life

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:22 pm
by Philcheck (imported)
Oh and yes my baby making days are over. First off I had a vasectomy way before this all happened and second I've had prostate surgery and have retrograde ejaulation. So no matter how I look at it, kids will not happen in so many ways not that I want them at my age. I'm done in so many ways!

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:54 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Philcheck (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:22 pm Oh and yes my baby making days are over. First off I had a vasectomy way before this all happened and second I've had prostate surgery and have retrograde ejaulation. So no matter how I look at it, kids will not happen in so many ways not that I want them at my age. I'm done in so many ways!

Yes, your baby making days have been turned off intentionally for many years. No doubt that your surgeries sure ended your baby making permanently. One huge barrier to castrating your right ball is taken away of by your voluntary sterility and retorgrade ejaculation. Now your right balls is only providing testosterone, which even if you get half castrated, your left ball can still provide all the testosterone your body needs. If your testosterone level gets too low on just your left ball s output, from aging or any other reason, then artificial testosterone can be used to keep your T levels within ideal ranges for a man of any age. But taking artificial T for a long enough time usually turns off any remaining balls own production of T and sperm after a while. If the use of artificial T continues, balls turn off permanently and atrophy forever, usually shrinking in size as they turn off.

You sound ideal for removing your right testicle and any right side testicular tubes and spermatic cords that might be causing pain. Maybe your dr s very practical approach might help persuade him, or some urologist, to harvest that right ball for you

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:33 pm
by Philcheck (imported)
You bring up some good points to use to discuss this with the doc. If he says well no or I don't know I can use the approach you have mentioned. Their oath says to do no harm so in my condition how would removing the right one create any harm at all? There is only a benefit if it reduces the pain and discomfort issue. I've been doing research and it says best to be removed inguinally. After 11 years of pain I'm tired.

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:40 pm
by Philcheck (imported)
The appointment is upcoming next week on the 16th. Been doing the research and armed with info and encouragement from here. It is what it is but still nervous at what the appointment brings... Will the doc say yes or just blow me off and not listen?

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:22 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Philcheck (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:40 pm The appointment is upcoming next week on the 16th. Been doing the research and armed with info and encouragement from here. It is what it is but still nervous at what the appointment brings... Will the doc say yes or just blow me off and not listen?

Good for you ! That s progress on ending 11 years of pain. Hopefully the urologist will agree with your primary dr. If he does not agree to castrate your right testicle, you can listen open minded to his proposed plan to end your pain. Then decide if his plan is worth trying or not.

If his plan does not seem likely to succeed, or is not agreeable to you, you still need care to end your pain. It seems like your primary care dr could quietly ask different urologists or general surgeons to find one who will agree to remove the testicle from a patient who obviouslly needs it done and is ready and willing to give up his right testicle.

To help convince this urologist to remove your right testicle, you are doing the right things. Convince your primary dr to recommend that removal. Research all of the pros and cons and possible affects on you from losing your right testicle. Research the alternative treatments, which you might already have tried unsuccessfully. Be a fully educated and informed patient. Convince this urologist that you are serious, willing, understanably in pain and therefore eager to have this done after 11 years of pain, and view a simple right testicle removal as your best chance to reduce this pain. There would be minimal surgical risks. You still have your non painful left testicle to perform all of the functions of a missing, painful, right testicle.

If this urologist refuses to remove your right testicle. Ask him for the names of other dr s who might be more willing to remove your testicle ? Drs know each other s attitudes, past surgeries, and care ideas. Ask him for the names of drs who might be more willing to remove this gonad if he is not willing to help you ? He might decide that if you are going to try different drs until you find one willing to get your gonad removed, maybe he might save you alot of extra time, expenses, pain, and hassles and just do it himself.

If he still won t end your pain, then start calling different drs offices or emailing, both urologists and general surgeons, to search for one who is willing to see you to discuss testicle removal. Then ask your primary dr for a referral to that willing dr, and/or a letter of medical necessity for your insurance company or for that willing dr, if necessary. Your primary dr knows your long history of pain and what you have unsuccessfully tried already. Let your primary dr, and each additional dr that you see, know that you clearly favor, approve of, and seek the removal of your right testicle as your first choice to do in trying to end your pain. Until your pain is ended, you have the right to see more drs until your painful medical condition has been cured.

Good luck on the 16th. Ideally anticipate his possible alternate plans of action, and be well researched to discuss other plans comparative pros and cons versus castration with this urologist.

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:38 pm
by Philcheck (imported)
Thank you for all your ideas and input. You are a wealth of ideas and angles that I have not thought of. You are many steps ahead of me and what is going thru my mind. Helps to have an outside view and opinion. I appreciate your comments and time buddy!

Re: Uro referral

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:58 pm
by mattman59 (imported)
Philcheck (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:22 pm Oh and yes my baby making days are over. First off I had a vasectomy way before this all happened and second I've had prostate surgery and have retrograde ejaulation. So no matter how I look at it, kids will not happen in so many ways not that I want them at my age. I'm done in so many ways!

Way way too many people are on this planet. The less baby-making the better. I'm glad a lot more people are not having kids and are not even marrying or involved in a relationship. That makes it a whole lot better for us eunuchs. We don't stick out like a sore thumb so much.