what they tell to children about sex, sexuality, love, etc. before they have to deal with it in your country?

I did not know where to put this. This seemed the place where it is ok, as it deals with mental well being.

First., When I was a young boy, I read a book about sexual developement, sex, marriage, STD, orgasms, etc. from a book that my parents have bought and left it accessible to me. So I read it and educated myself. Back then sex education in schools was rudimentary and laughable. Basically non existant. Even that book described masturbation as an unwanted behavior and did not touch "sex drive", just merely discussing "feellings". But that was the book of the time, I don't blame it. I remember that I had a rudimentary discussion about sex drive with my friends father. He was a doctor and did not consider sex related stuff shameful to discuss. It was me who felt ashamed. So our discussion was short. But I was already 16 and had no need to discuss it. It would have been much more useful when I was 11 or 12 when I read that book I mentioned.

So, I thought that much time has passed since I was 11 or 12 and sex education in schools is much better now. In some sense it is compared to my time. 11 year olds are prepared to some degree for coming changes. But I was very surprised, when I read through these materials, that again there was no concept of "sex drive" which is central part of being adult, that mother nature has given to us for having children. It is not genitals that force us having sex, it is a sex drive! It all revolves around sex drive in adult world. And in that material, there is nothing about how to deal with sex drive as a human. Again that stone age fuzzy "feelings" stuff. It is a sex drive that makes your penis hard, it is a sex drive that makes you want sex. There are two separate entities. Love and sex drive. If you want someone sexually, who arouses you sexually it is not exactly love. Could a penis or vagina be a love subject? No, it is a person you love. Damn I got so angry. Why to hide truth? Because we are ashamed? I admit, it would be very difficult for me to discuss that stuff with anyone if I had to. Huh

And other thing that I found is that boys are teached that their first ejaculation will happen at night, at sleep through a pollution? What a crap! Most boys experience their first ejaculation while masturbating. And again, nothing much about masturbation, like it is something shameful. Not speaking of why people even masturbate, as it is driven by sex drive, what is again a shameful concept.

And that confuses and frustrates children and teens and may be even adults, who do not understand such basic concepts like "sex drive". That is not good for mental health.

So, if you know, then please tell us about sex education in your country.

Although sex education was common when I was in high school, it is now becoming either nonexistent or is teaching lies.

Taking a room full of horny 16-year-olds and telling them that "abstinence-only" is all they need to know about sex is educational malpractice. Also, they teach lies such as condoms don't stop the spread of HIV (when if used properly, a condom is almost 100% effective). That abortions leave a woman unable to ever have children again and that giving teenagers the HPV vaccine will encourage them to have sex.

Instead of real sex education, schools are now using scare tactics in an attempt to keep teenagers from having sex.

The odd thing is what is now called a "technical virgin" - girls that are giving blow jobs to their boyfriends and using "God's Loophole" which is anal sex. Their logic is that the bible only forbids anal sex between gay men. That the Bible doesn't specifically forbid heterosexual anal sex.

So, by not giving their children the HPV vaccine, conservative parents are putting them at risk of future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:54 am Although sex education was common when I was in high school, it is now becoming either nonexistent or is teaching lies.

Taking a room full of horny 16-year-olds and telling them that "abstinence-only" is all they need to know about sex is educational malpractice. Also, they teach lies such as condoms don't stop the spread of HIV (when if used properly, a condom is almost 100% effective). That abortions leave a woman unable to ever have children again and that giving teenagers the HPV vaccine will encourage them to have sex.

Instead of real sex education, schools are now using scare tactics in an attempt to keep teenagers from having sex.

The odd thing is what is now called a "technical virgin" - girls that are giving blow jobs to their boyfriends and using "God's Loophole" which is anal sex. Their logic is that the bible only forbids anal sex between gay men. That the Bible doesn't specifically forbid heterosexual anal sex.

So, by not giving their children the HPV vaccine, conservative parents are putting them at risk of future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY

We had sex ed, led by our gym teacher who later, in our co-ed PE class, jokingly offered me as a co-ed study of male anatomy... was kinda funny, but kinda awkward, too. Looking back I wish I dropped my gym shorts and said “here ya go coach!”

rogerwpbfl (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:34 pm We had sex ed, led by our gym teacher who later, in our co-ed PE class, jokingly offered me as a co-ed study of male anatomy... was kinda funny, but kinda awkward, too. Looking back I wish I dropped my gym shorts and said “here ya go coach!”

Rog,

That would be fine as long as you had followed the first rule of a male stripper which is always:

Show them the rear before you show them the gear.

(wink)

Rog,

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:48 pm That would be fine as long as you had followed the first rule of a male stripper which is always:

Show them the rear before you show them the gear.

(wink)

And I wonder if you could have kept willy under control, as in a limp noodle?

In the USA it's pretty much non-existent in most states, but the guidelines are on a state-by-state level. We have a vocal minority that insists it is the parents who should teach it, then the parents do not teach it. Those are mostly winning the battle of how sex education will be taught in the schools.

In late 1980's California a doctor was brought into our high school health class (at about grade 10 - age 14-16), and showed us how to put on a condom (using a banana, though a dildo probably would have been better) and taught us all about how pregnancy happens.

In the state of Colorado, they made contraception free (in 2009 I believe), and the rate of teen pregnancy dropped significantly.

I would go into further discussion about other areas of the country, but do not wish to step into a political discussion.

Rog,

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:48 pm That would be fine as long as you had followed the first rule of a male stripper which is always:

Show them the rear before you show them the gear.

(wink)

Hahahaha!!!! I’ll remember that next time.

As for limp noodle, I think he would be full mast once we “adjusted” to the attention. I wasn’t as much of an exhibitionist in 9th grade.

Kudos to LT for steering from the political discussion.

GordonGG (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:04 pm And I wonder if you could have kept willy under control, as in a limp noodle?

Hum,

If I intended to keep my willy limp, why would I have a $50 bill in my hand for a lap dance?

(wink wink)

rogerwpbfl (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:34 pm We had sex ed, led by our gym teacher who later, in our co-ed PE class, jokingly offered me as a co-ed study of male anatomy... was kinda funny, but kinda awkward, too. Looking back I wish I dropped my gym shorts and said

“here ya go coach!”

Your teacher wanted to brag you up in front of your whole class for beiing so blessed in your male sex organs. It probably put you on the spot for how to react in front of the class. Too bad he didn t ask you in private first if it was ok to advertise your great endowments in front of your class.

One of my fellow phy ed teachers got stuck teaching about STDs on parent s day with a classroom full of parents with their kids lol. He said that was very awkward as a young man lecturing parents much older than him.

As students, we got a questionaire on how effective and comprehensive was our high school sex education ? This was handed out our Senior year in class. It was mainly a menu of different sexual ideas and concepts that asked us to rate how well different sexual topics were covered in our high school sex ed classes ? Being proud seniors, we mostly filled in that we knew about all of it, to avoid admitting how much we didn t know and how much was never covered in any classes at all.

One loud mouthed girl blurted out WET DREAMS as she read items from the list. The grad student conducting this study was in the classroom and he offered to provide photos for any terms that we didn t know. The girl guffawed louded and giggled, blushing. That put an end to any further discussions as we all sat there, filling our this survey in silence. We mostly falsely claimed that we knew everything about sex as Seniors.

I m sure the study results were ruined by all of us thinking our buddies might snatch our survey away at any moment and read it aloud to the class to embarrass us in front of everyone. We all put what we wished we knew, what wouldn t be embarrassing to read in front of our classmates, and not what we were ever taught.

More sex ed happened from random questions from our male students in the locker rooms but it was one on one or small groups, not effective curriculum. One of my fellow teachers who also taught sex ed was giving me his enthusiastic sales pitch for me to get myself a vasectomy like his recent surgery in front of an all boys 8th grade class. The boys listened in and thought it was ok to have us discussing the pros and cons of this surgery and all the gory details as nothing out of the ordinary for males to discuss openly. A few guys asked their questions as we talked it over. No one felt at all uncomfortable in an all male group. A lot of those students are themselves now in the prime ages to get their own vasectomies now. I wonder how many remember our discussion as they decide if they want to get theirs or not ?

Hahahaha!!!! I’

rogerwpbfl (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:40 pm ll remember that next time.

As for limp noodle, I think he would be full mast once we

“adjusted” to the attention. I wasn’

rogerwpbfl (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:40 pm t as much of an exhibitionist in 9th grade.

Kudos to LT for steering from the political discussion.

Your exhibitionism probably developed a few years later as you reached your maximum penis size and realized that your classmates and coaches were never going to match your great penis size.

Plus meeting all of your friends parents and sisters and girlfriends at swim meets with nothing covering your dick and balls but razor thin speedo lycra makes an exhibitionist out of every swim team member. The mothers and sisters and girlfriends all try to look you in the eyes. But every one of them can t resist taking secret inventories of all those young cocks and balls on full display at swim meets. You know they all get to see you more naked than if you were dry and your hair was hiding more of your dick and balls than a wet speedo does. And you try not being a sissy who is hiding your crotch like you re not man enough to be on the team. After all that exposure, you couldn t help wanting to show off your pride and joy to everyone you can.