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Anal orgasms after castration without testosteron replacement?

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:48 am
by RRRRandy (imported)
I am new here and I have not introduced myself yet. I am for more than 15 years into genital modification and have a subincision and split glans (see my accounts on Fetlife and Manmods).

I am planning my surgical castration now, but I have a question on which I don't seem to find the answer.

As I am in my early 60's I plan not to use any testoron replacements after my castration.

I do however very much like anal play and the joys that come with that.

Can anyone tell me if after castration and without testosteron replacement I can still enjoy anal and orgasm play?

Thanks for your replies!

Re: Anal orgasms after castration without testosteron replacement?

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:28 am
by TopManFL (imported)
Hey R3 Randy -

First, Welcome Home. This community is very supportive and knowledgeable. Further, the people on here are protective of both their fellow members and the forum. So, you'll find as real a place to discuss issues as is possible. One reminder is that the fiction section is just that - fiction.

I'm not a eunuch. I did have a question from your post, are you able to achieve orgasm now from just anal play? If your favorite bad dragon dildo will send you over the moon from prostate stimulation alone now, the chances that Fafnir, Ergon or Chance will continue to do so go up considerably.

One thing to keep in mind - your decision to not go on HRT can be modified after your physical castration. Being in your very late 50s doesn't mean your sex drive is gone.

You might decide to stay off HRT, go on a very very low dose of HRT to avoid hot flashes, go on a low dose to just get some interest in sex or even go back to a full dose to get your T in the normal range.

Another option to consider is HRT with estrogen. It's not an obvious idea for someone that wants to remain male in gender identity and also become a eunuch. Nevertheless, a low dose of E could get your horny and stop the hot flashes.

Finding a good endocrinologist isn't easy. Hell just finding any endocrinologist at all isn't easy. Still, after the deed is done and you are two stones lighter, finding a doctor to monitor your hormones and to keep your Vitamin D in the normal range is important. A bone scan before and after the orchi would be a good idea as well. Without a baseline to compare, it's more difficult to know how the lack of T is affecting your bones.

Keep us informed.

Re: Anal orgasms after castration without testosteron replacement?

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:56 am
by Begoneboy (imported)
RRRRandy (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:48 am Can anyone tell me if after castration and without testosteron replacement I can still enjoy anal and orgasm play?

Thanks for your replies!

Welcome aboard! Having never experianced the joys of anal play as an intact male I must admit they are WONDERFUL as a testosterone free eunuch/nullo.

TopManFL was on the mark about getting a bone density scan before getting rid of the "T" production factory. It may be very important later on in life. While I've never take "T" I did and do take "E" for a number of health reasons. Yes, absolutely as TopManFL suggested get a good endocrinologist to monitor your health without hormone production.

Your question was more to the sexual play side of the issue and that is important. You will be able to fulfill those desires and needs to great satisfaction. But don't overlook your other health needs along the way.

Re: Anal orgasms after castration without testosteron replacement?

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:20 am
by RRRRandy (imported)
Well, this really is a great community, with such quick replies already! Thanks TopmanFL for your warning regarding the monitoring. I plan to make use of the services of a cutter, but that still means that I have to talk to my doctor about the follow up. Which I will!

And I am glad with the reply of Begoneboy, as this was exactly what I am hoping for! Being free of my too strong sex drive, but still being able to enjoy anal play when I want to is my dream. And I can’t wait to become totally smooth down there :)

Re: Anal orgasms after castration without testosteron replacement?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:54 pm
by aklurker (imported)
Begoneboy (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:56 am Welcome aboard! Having never experianced the joys of anal play as an intact male I must admit they are WONDERFUL as a testosterone free eunuch/nullo.
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Begoneboy (and others): Begoneboy (and others):

Your comment hits right at a major question that I have: if a previously completely penis oriented nullo has difficulty achieving orgasm by manipulating what's left in the "front," will rectal play help him achieve orgasm?

Let me give you some background. I am a previously completely heterosexual male, but also a nullo-wannabe since puberty. Way back then I found that I could push my balls up into my inguinal canals and invert my penis back into my abdomen. I even sewed my inverted penis up once to keep it inside. (Painful, and it didn't work very well.) Despite my nullo wannabeism, I have been a totally heterosexual (if not very effective) sexual partner. I find male genitalia (including mine) unattractive, and women's not much more so. I am happily married, but our marriage has been sexless for at least 25 years. My sexual outlet has been masturbation maybe once or twice a month. The thought of having sex with another male has no attraction for me, and the occasional medical rectal examinations have been decidedly uncomfortable and not arousing. I masturbate my penis after tucking my balls up into my inguinal canals and fantasizing about being a eunuch. Recently the orgasms have been only so-so. More recently my orgasms have been less and less rewarding -- often really not worth the effort. And with this my interest in becoming a nullo has gotten stronger and stronger.

I recently found that I could invert my penis and keep it in using some kinesthesia tape. This works quite well. My balls are not "low hangers," so with my penis inverted, my balls tucked up, and my scrotum contracted into a flat knot, I can easily fantasize that I am a nullo. It feels right, and I look pretty convincing when I look at myself in a mirror. I suppose that it is an oddity of my nullo-wannabeism, but I have found that manipulating my scrotum and perineum can get me very, very hot -- hotter than I have felt for years. But despite 30 min or so of rubbing and pushing, I can rarely get over the edge to an orgasm. It seems that the "warm up" is much better than it has been for years, but no orgasm. The effort has made me aware of how much I had been missing even when I had a penile orgasm. I would be happy getting rid of my junk, but I realize that I would be sorry to lose the ability to get an orgasm if I can only achieve orgasm with a penis.

So my question is whether trying a rectal vibrator will help. Your message suggests that you, too, didn't do anything rectal before getting nullified, but you now find it WONDERFUL! I would eagerly get myself nullified if I knew that I could still achieve an orgasm to end up the wonderful "warm-up" that I have now experienced. What do you think? aklurker

Re: Anal orgasms after castration without testosteron replacement?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:01 pm
by Losethem (imported)
As a nullo, I can say you'll never definitively know how your body will respond after your penectomy, before you actually get it done. No matter what you do, you will still feel your penis to some extent, and you will know it's still there. I would encourage you to pursue what is right for you, so only say this to educate. It's much like that old TV commercial from the 1970's that asked, "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" The answer is, "The world may never know."

Penectomy is much the same way. It's impossible to know before you actually do it.

If you're getting pleasurable sensation outside of the areas where the genital material you are wanting removed is, odds are it will still feel good. That skin will still be part of your body after nullification. In my case, I am still able to orgasm and ejaculate through the small hole in my crotch. I have a subsurface stump left from my penis, and it gets hard when I get aroused, but doesn't show at the surface. It can be felt underneath during masturbation or when I'm having sex. It takes me longer to achieve orgasm than it did in the past, but it is still satisfactory and pleasurable, though less intense. However, this intensity has been traded for what I call mini-orgasms, which occur multiple times during a sexual encounter. I find it to be a nice trade-off.

There are doctors performing nerve sparing nullification procedures now. That is, they make sure the severed dorsal nerve (or in the case of one doctor, you can have your glans buried near your urethral reroute), and the nullified man can then rub the area where the nerves were placed to achieve an orgasm. While there is no guarantee any particular man will be able to achieve orgasm after nullification, I only know of one case out of several where the man had that as his outcome. Odds are, from my non-scientific observation, if you can orgasm now, you'll likely be able to after. But... There is no guarantee.

Re: Anal orgasms after castration without testosteron replacement?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:29 am
by Begoneboy (imported)
Aklurher:"
Aklurker (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:54 pm So my question is whether trying a rectal vibrator will help. Your message suggests that you, too, didn't do anything rectal before getting nullified, but you now find it WONDERFUL! I would eagerly get myself nullified if I knew that I could still achieve an orgasm to end up the wonderful "warm-up" that I have now experienced. What do you think? aklurker
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Doesn't really matter what I think. What matters is what you think regarding you. I know, that sounded like a put off but Losethem is exactly right on the mark. It is not for any of us to give advice for another to modify themselves. That is only for themselves to decide. Most of us are happy to share our individual experiences as those experiences often help others make a better informed decision on their future plans. Losethem is also correct in that if you were able to orgasm prior to modifying your body it's a good chance you will afterwards as well. I cannot share experience of using a vibrator anally because I never have used a vibrator. But I can assure you that when the prostate is manipulated enough it will produce orgasm(s). As losethem mentioned, many many times as the manipulation continues. With a guy who can keep going this sends me to the stars. And that is indeed wonderful. But as also mentioned. mileage varies between men. I was introduced to anal play long after nullification and the man who introduced me to that form of sex was a very gentle and extremely patient person. He liked vaginas and anuses equally and treated them both with great care. He didn't like women and wasn't particularly fond of the concept of sex with men. I was not like any he had ever met and he did me right. Before him, my only experience with being penetrated anally was being raped as a child. And that experience scared the hell out of me. But this was very different and extremely sensual. Since then I have grown to truly enjoy sex as a nullo and with the right person it is even more than WONDERFUL.