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Is this legit?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:13 pm
by Dionysus (imported)
http://www.mexicotransgendercenter.com/Appointment.aspx

Is this really a thing that exists? I can get the lot removed no problem? I would like this to be an option for later in the road if it is. Do you need anything or is it no questions asked?

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:16 am
by T van Keel (imported)
I have no exerience with that doctor, but reading this might be helpful to evaluate it, even if it is not sure it was done by the same doctor.

forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php?28976-Surgical-Disaster (http://forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php ... l-Disaster)

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:53 am
by ambiguous (imported)
I believe there are a few places in Mexico that does this type of work but feel that any further details may annoy the moderators here.

Visit forums like this and any other trans forums you see and do your homework.

I would be pretty annoyed if I was to wake up post op to find my dick was now medical waste thats why I would give Ivan and the yoyo in London a pretty wide berth..

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:12 pm
by Losethem (imported)
I am very concerned about any doctor who will perform surgery that may harm a patient. Castration mostly improves mens lives. Penectomy? The jury is out.

This is the second thread today I've seen you get hyper anti-penectomy. You seem to be rather judgmental about anything that doesn't fit your own seemingly narrow view of what castration and male genital modification/removal is. You are incredibly against this, coming in stating how it's horrible and the jury is out.

The jury isn't out, at least not among the majority of those of us who have had a penectomy.

There is only one case of regret I've found along the way vis-a-vis nullification. Admittedly, those who regret probably don't come back to these forums, the same as those who regret castration.

Just like castration, there is regret among some who have had a penectomy at having modified their body in that permanent way. However, most guys I know who have had penectomies, including myself, are very happy they had it done. Your attitudes towards it are very much like the intact males who would look at you and say you have/would regret having your balls cut off. Just because THEY would have regret doesn't mean YOU would.

I know I've stated my getting a penectomy has made dating incredibly difficult, which I expected going into it, by the way. There is a huge difference between that and regretting having it done at all. Please take the time to understand that difference.

It's o.k. penectomy is not your thing, but I'd ask you not to diminish those of us who have done it. You wouldn't like it very much if others did the same to you regarding testicle removal.

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:55 pm
by zeebster (imported)
Dionysus (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:13 pm http://www.mexicotransgendercenter.com/Appointment.aspx

Is this really a thing that exists? I can get the lot removed no problem? I would like this to be an option for later in the road if it is. Do you need anything or is it no questions asked?

I had an ongoing exchange with someone at the website who's name was "Ivan". Turned out later on that these were just office workers, not the Doctor himself. I got lied to many times, prices kept changing, always going up, available dates kept changing, he does not have a single review online with a good outcome. In fact, I was only able to find two reviews one was similar to your question, the other told a very bad experience story about his/her experience and complications.

I finally got to exchanging messages with someone who claimed he was the actual "Doctor". Whoever it was, was much more knowledgeable in answering my questions. There is some information on a Doctor by this name who is a Pediatric Urologist which seems funny as he has a patent on treating BPH with Botox. He claims to have been trained by Dr. Marci Bowers, but other research suggests she only let him "observe" for a week.

In short; the more I learned about this "outfit" the more I got concerned about whether or not it was legitimate and safe. The good "Doctor" finally provided me a phone number for his "private", oh crap I cannot remember the name of it, but it's a messaging service kind of like just a .txt message but not "public" if you will? I downloaded the app but could never get it to work. Finally I called the phone number and got the recording saying it was disconnected. They have another "office" just over the border between the USA and Mexico with a listed phone number. I called that and got an answering machine with no identification of who was answering and definitely nothing about a Doctor's office so I hung up. I got a phone call from that number the next morning which I did not answer and they did not leave any message.

I finally concluded that this was a scam and may not even be the Doctor who's name appears on all the correspondence. I find it worth noting that there is no voice line available for the "Clinic" which also kind of leads me to believe that this may not even be the real Dr. Aguilar.

I messed around with these people over a period or 4 or 5 months because I wanted to think it was real, but finally gave it up as I had absolutely no faith that I would get what I was seeking and, would have to have paid for in advance....

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:34 am
by Losethem (imported)
zeebster (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:55 pm I had an ongoing exchange with someone at the website who's name was "Ivan". Turned out later on that these were just office workers, not the Doctor himself. I got lied to many times, prices kept changing, always going up, available dates kept changing, he does not have a single review online with a good outcome. In fact, I was only able to find two reviews one was similar to your question, the other told a very bad experience story about his/her experience and complications.

These kinds of things are why I've been actively discouraging folks from going to Dr. Arnkoff for penectomy or complete nullification. Yes, its the path of least resistance, but the only good outcome I've seen him have with penectomy was on a fellow medical doctor. I'm guessing he took more time and was more careful in that instance, since a fellow physician would know exactly who to complain to should there be a significantly negative outcome.

I bring the Arnkoff case up as he is often seen as the path of least resistance. That path may be easy, but is not necessarily a good option. Cheap/easy doesn't mean quality.

The other two patients I know who went to Arnkoff for amputation of their penis, have had complications. The after result is a horrid mess, both developed a urethral stricture (narrowing or blockage of the urethra, requiring intervention). One of those had the urethra heal over completely, and had to have a suprapubic catheter installed so they could void urine.

That said, I would continue to recommend Arnkoff for castration, so long as you do not have him take the scrotal tissue. He's just not good at the plastic surgery portion of genital amputations in whole or part.

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:03 pm
by zeebster (imported)
Well I've started exploring the India route again as there is a major issue with any of the US Physicians. IF they take Medicare patients, they cannot accept a patient who is on Medicare and wants to pay for it himself. If they do, they can lose the ability to accept Medicare patients in the future for I think, two years.

I talked with our friends in San Francisco and that is where I got the information about Medicare. They said they could do the procedure, but could not as I was a Medicare patient. In the meantime, they are evaluating whether or not to stop accepting Medicare patients. I was advised to contact them again in October or so for an update. If that doesn't work, going overseas is the only answer for any of us older guys unless you can come up with some reason that would qualify for a penectomy as a Medicare covered procedure for a particular patient.

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:37 pm
by Dekeldoh (imported)
zeebster (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:03 pm Well I've started exploring the India route again as there is a major issue with any of the US Physicians. IF they take Medicare patients, they cannot accept a patient who is on Medicare and wants to pay for it himself. If they do, they can lose the ability to accept Medicare patients in the future for I think, two years.

I talked with our friends in San Francisco and that is where I got the information about Medicare. They said they could do the procedure, but could not as I was a Medicare patient. In the meantime, they are evaluating whether or not to stop accepting Medicare patients. I was advised to contact them again in October or so for an update. If that doesn't work, going overseas is the only answer for any of us older guys unless you can come up with some reason that would qualify for a penectomy as a Medicare covered procedure for a particular patient.

That does not sound accurate. I recently got my orchiectomy covered by Medicare for ambiguous "male-to-eunuch" gender dysphoria with honest letters, and the option of self-pay was always available to me from the same provider. And "gender dysphoria" is a perfectly valid "
zeebster (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:03 pm reason that would qualify for a penectomy as a Medicare covered procedure for a particular patient.
" Whether the company handling Medicare in your jurisdiction will approve trans-related stuff at level 1 is a different story, but if you're being refused treatment from the start then it's likely a problem with that specific surgeon or their office.

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:01 am
by MikeGrant (imported)
I can't actually find any reviews for Ivan. Their website doesn't have anything from past patients. They quote $3500 for orchiectomy and scrotum removal, air fare not included.

Re: Is this legit?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:58 am
by zeebster (imported)
Dekeldoh (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:37 pm That does not sound accurate. I recently got my orchiectomy covered by Medicare for ambiguous "male-to-eunuch" gender dysphoria with honest letters, and the option of self-pay was always available to me from the same provider. And "gender dysphoria" is a perfectly valid "
zeebster (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:03 pm reason that would qualify for a penectomy as a Medica
Dekeldoh (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:37 pm re covered procedure for a particular patient.
" Whether the company handling Medicare in your jurisdiction will approve trans-related stuff at level 1 is a different story, but if you're being refused treatment from the start then it's like
ly a problem with that specific surgeon or their office.

As I said, if Medicare would cover the procedure, then it's fine. If you do have a valid condition or situation which Medicare would approve the procedure, then there is not a problem. As for getting the letters? I've checked with several local shrinks and the cost per hour of seeing those folks is what I would call prohibitive.

As for the Physicians involved, they are part of one of the best known SRS offices in the country, so I find no reason to doubt their word regarding the self pay issue.