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Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:19 am
by erikboy (imported)
So, I have been around EA... for ages. Read a lot of personal experiences and thoughts. And compared others experiences with my own feelings and thoughts.

What I see, is that, generally men older than 35 are ready to take that life altering step. The older the easier the decision would be to make.

Still many regret not being castrated earlier. Much earlier, including myself, despite I am not an eunuch yet.

When asked about when the interest about castration started, big part of respondents say that during puberty or as a young adult. And over the time that interest didn't fade, instead got more intense. Thats not a scientific approach, as it is difficult to get information from them, who lost that interest in castration soon after they got interested in it. They aren't with us.

As it is very odd and life altering, to get castrated, people want to be sure that they can't live without it. Only after a long time, seeing nothing get better, they decide finally to get castrated, and regret not getting it done earlier.

Now, getting castrated early in life, wouldn't allow to experience that life with endless desire to get castrated. Which sometimes seem quite agonizing. Also, there would be no beforehand knowledge or experience of downsides being castrated. So it might lead to thinking, that castration wasn't a right decision, and could lead to regretting becoming an eunuch, while endlessly delaying castration could be much worse. So you never know.

When I think back in my life, having the knowledge and experience I have now, I think I would have been happiest if I was castrated around 15-17. Very young indeed. But only if I had the knowledge and experience I have now. My life would have taken much different path. I would have been much different person. And much happier, knowing that I made a right decision at a right time.

The only way it could have happened at a right time is to have a right person beside me, helping me to understand what it really mean to become an eunuch. To help me to have a chemical trial period, to have some of my sperm frozen. Listen to my concerns, give me honest answers. And finally, if I am ready, help me to get it done safely. The other big problem is society... Probably I needed to invent some acceptably story, why I am an eunuch, in case someone asked or got to know that I am an eunuch. And after that just to embrace my new and happy eunuch life ahead. I had no such mentor in my life of course.

But that is not possible of course in our current society. I had to live years and years thinking that I am the only freak in the world wanting castration. And then endlessly hoping that desire would fade and I become a normal person. Which never happened of course. There is a counseling for transgender people, helping them to make right decision at a young age to minimize their suffering.

I understand that there are many reasons why castration desire exists, but it is very important for everyone to know the reason. As early as possible. Whether it is just another paraphilia to be castrated, to castrate, to have castrated partner or be castrated partner, or is it more related to self image, body dysphoria or gender dysphoria etc. Or mix of everything. That is important to know in order to make an informed decision that would lead to happy life.

So, what do you think, people?

Is it possible to make an informed decision about castration at early age?

If you were castrated at the right age, how you think your life looked like now?

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:39 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
I think people will use all kinds of things to blame for how life usually goes different from what we had planned for our futures. If its not one thing, its something else, education, jobs, spouses, where you live, sex drive, all kinds of things that might have changed people s lives.

I think its better for men and especially young men and boys to live with that longing for enough years to be sure they want castration and to have kids and lots of great sex before they give up their balls permanently. I thing if males get castrated too young, it could easily become their main focus or scapegoat for why their life is going different from what they had planned or wanted. It would be too easy to blame that early choice for anything that goes wrong in their lives.

Plus, the mentors could too easily be into this to recruit young guys into being eunuchs as their own sexual gratification instead of what is best for the young men.

Circumcision is far less damaging than castration, and look at the controversy around cutting off a boy s foreskin. Lots of grown men and boys wish they were the opposite of what they have in their penis foreskins, not that it does much good to claim it changed their life as much as a castration would change their lives. That natural tendancy to blame being castrated as a boy or young man would be there all his life to regret and wonder about what would his life have been like if he had kept his balls instead ?

I think most men with this urge to actually get castrated do get some enjoyment from planning and debating inside their own heads, and feeling that yearning for years before satisfying it by losing their balls and or dick at older ages and after decades of sex and fatherhood in most cases.

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:48 pm
by Losethem (imported)
I'd say an appropriate age is around 25 with few hurdles, and 18 if A LOT OF hurdles have been put in place. When I speak of hurdles, I'm talking adequate psychological examination, etc.

In the US, some as young as 16 are allowed a surgical gender transition with parental consent and the following of the standards of care, so I think this could be treated in a similar way.

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:16 pm
by Atreyu69 (imported)
I've been terrified by and interested in castration for just about as long as I can remember but my "obsession" was at its peak from ages 10 to 15. If it had been socially acceptable, and if I had same age friends who had had the procedure and were happy with the results, and if I was assured it would be painless, I might have agreed to a full nullification at age 13 or 14.

Had I been castrated at 13 I'm sure that there'd be times when I regretted it and other times when I'd have been thrilled to be a eunuch. I don't see it as a happy or sad sort of a thing. Rather being a full eunuch would be a happy and sad thing depending on my phase of life and current situation. But during those moments of regret I wouldn't blame anyone but myself. This much I know for sure, there's simply no way on Earth you could get a 12 year old boy to agree to be castrated unless it was what he really wanted. Had I willingly walked into that castration clinic knowing ahead of time what they were going to do to me the rest would've been on me and no one else.

Earlier today I was listening to a Catholic radio talk show host railing against parents who were raising their children as "gender fluid." Needless to say he didn't approve. I wanted to call in and say that these parents don't need my understanding or approval. The question should be, are they Americans? Americans, we are told, value freedom. Freedom is what we've fought for. But what is freedom if not the right to live our lives with as little government interference as possible?

If at some future date 13 year olds are allowed voluntary castration I wouldn't object. If my son wanted castration I'd try to dissuade him. But if he held firm in his desire I'd support him in becoming a eunuch.

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:28 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
I knew of a young boy, an only child, whose parents raised him as gender neutral or pro feminine since he was very young. They gave him female toys and encouraged female behaviors in him.

I ended up being his phy ed teacher in his 7th to 9th grades. I felt terrible for him. He hated sports, didn t get along with other males, preferred girls as his friends, and seemed maladjusted and unhappy all around. He hated me and hated phy ed. I think his parents recklessly experimented with their son for their own kicks and ruined his life.

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:43 am
by DeaconBlues (imported)
cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:28 pm I knew of a young boy, an only child, whose parents raised him as gender neutral or pro feminine since he was very young. They gave him female toys and encouraged female behaviors in him.

I ended up being his phy ed teacher in his 7th to 9th grades. I felt terrible for him. He hated sports, didn t get along with other males, preferred girls as his friends, and seemed maladjusted and unhappy all around. He hated me and hated phy ed. I think his parents recklessly experimented with their son for their own kicks and ruined his life.

Thanks for this very interesting and candid posting. I believe there are a lot of maladjusted people who are the product of bad parenting. Do you have any information about what eventually happened to this child as he grew up?

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:56 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
DeaconBlues (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:43 am Thanks for this very interesting and candid posting. I believe there are a lot of maladjusted people who are the product of bad parenting. Do you have any information about what eventually happened to this child as he grew up?

No, I d heard about him as a little boy from older girls who were baby sitters for him, and I was appauled that any parents would intentionally do that to any child. I was not even connecting him to the young boy that I d heard the girls talking about from many years earlier when I first taught him when he was in 7th grade. I didn t realize it was the same boy until he was in 8th grade and I d noticed how uncomfortable he was around other boys, especially the jocks and more masculine boys his age. Then I realized it was the same kid. He hated my class and me so I didn t have much contact with him with so many kids in each class wanting my time and him wanting nothing to do with me. So, I concentrated on the kids eager to get any attention in class. He was tall and average masculine in looks and physical features for his age, thin and not muscular, but not undersized or frail. But he didn t like to be around other males of any ages. He d hang out with girls only and tried to avoid all the boys his age. He was prissy acting and bad tempered in resenting the other boys very openly. He thought I was a big ape jock and acted resentful whenever I interacted with him minimally in class and he hardly spent any time in the locker room and he didn t play any sports. I mostly left him alone with the girls he was part of a clique with. Not dating them, more like him being a girl with them.

He never knew I d heard stories about him as a young boy from years earlier, small town gossip from the girls babysitting him and seeing his parents encouraging female toys and activities in him, which shocked his female teen baby sitters.

Last I ever saw or heard of him was in my 9th grade phy ed class. I never heard anything about him when he went off to the high school and left the middle school I was teaching at. There was no reason to keep up on him with so many new male students who were often so eager to have any grown man to interact with, and from so many divorced homes with no dads around for their sons to spend any time with. You wouldn t believe the hunger so many boys and male teens have for any adult male contact after many years of being isolated from most adult men their whole childhoods, ( the propaganda of acting like all men are pedophiles crap that is being pervasively used to isolate boys from all men and most men avoiding kids like the plague for fear of being accused of being inappropriate with any under aged males and females) and with no dads caring about them. Its really so sad to see so many boys and teen males isolated from all adult men when they are growing up and no men as mentors or examples of how to be a man for them. Most men run the other direction from any kids for fear of being falsely accused of sexual anything.

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:54 pm
by Paolo
I have thoughts to add to this later, when I have a real keyboard and not a laptop only.

Perhaps to bring things a bit back onto topic?

I have raised a whole herd of boys, and spent a lot of time with their friends as well.

Castration curiosity (for lack of a better term) is fairly common in boys. At least, in those that have discovered how vulnerable to damage and/or pain their testicles are.

The most "celebrated" case of this curiosity/anxiety was when Nephew2 was in 7th grade, and one of his classmates lost a testicle from the "bag tag" game that was popular back then. He was hit so hard that the ruptured testicle began to hemorrhage, and by the time he got to surgery, it was too late to save it - it had to be removed.

Needless to say, Nephew and his gang were fraught with anxiety, curiosity, and questions.

The victim, let's call him John, was devastated. Losing one really messed up his head, and of course, the whole school knew about it in no time. Never mind the teasing and jibes he endured, and the fear that he'd lose the other one. This was another case of "go talk to L's uncle, he knows this stuff." (me) Somehow, it was always me? Long story short, it took a while, but I was eventually able to get him lined out.

While this isn't enough of a study to make a case (and that age, who knows?) I found that the boys in Nephew's clique were literally terrified of castration - while at the same time being fascinated with it. It's still my contention that boys below the age 16 are far too young to make their own informed choice about castration.

More later.

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:29 pm
by veryshyboy1995 (imported)
I started to think of it at 15 like an odd recurrent fantasy. I was not sure of it neither at 19; it's growing more serious from my 19, but i think it's not matter for young boys.

Re: Castrated at young age, is it acceptable or too early to make a decision

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:59 pm
by erikboy (imported)
I remeber there was a case of identical twin boys, one of which became girl at age 14. Actually transition process started earlier with stopping puberty one of boys.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/identical ... d=15142268

But the main point is that if trans people can be identified so early, then probably m to e people can be identified at young age too. So they don't have to go through puberty they might not want, or halt excessive masculinization. We can speak of our own experiences while most of us did not have much knowledge about castration and felt like the only weirdos in the world figuri g everything out slowly, painfully and without help.

So we might think that getting castrated early could be bad.

But then, changing sex as early is no easier thing to decide. You will become sterile anyway.

But if decision to get castrated early is right, it could make that person much happier, eliminating many sad years from their life.