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Male Castration vs Female Oophorectomy
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:00 am
by Wolf-Pup (imported)
Castration brings on sudden male andropause. How different is it from women who have their ovaries removed? Do the women have severe menopause or can they manage it better?
I know its much easier to castrate a male, but are the results for each sex similar?
Thanks
Re: Male Castration vs Female Oophorectomy
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:54 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
I m no expert. But it seems a castrated male will tend to revert toward more feminine body features without testosterone in his system. All fetuses with be female in the absence of testosterone. And women naturally experience a more dramatic menopause and sudden infertility than men from simply aging.
So, it seems males lose far more without testosterone or testicles than females do losing their ovaries. Masculinity depends on testosterone and balls or drugs to provide it. Femininity seems automatic without testosterone or even without any female hormones to produce more feminine body fratures and mind set.
Females after menopause don t become dramatically less feminine or less female. Males after castration do dramatically change in both body and mind to be less masculine unless testosterone is supplied to them.
Only males seem to experience a huge loss of their gender with no gonads. Females with no gonads stay far more female even with no ovaries.
It seems only males can be so easily neutered and so dramatically changed by removing their gonads.
That s probably why male castration alone is used so much more in livestock management and in past times to subdue and emasculate livestock and also conquered human populations and only male slaves to control them, dramatically change them, humiliate them, and break their wills to fight.
Taking female gonads or hormones away just doesn t change females nearly as much as castrating males changes males.
Also females do not experience the dramatic body and strength and sexual changes that a male does from losing their gonads or gender hormones.
Females do not experience the great humiliation and loss of dominance that males do from losing gonads. This is an exclusively male form of neutering, loss of self image, peer rank change, and humiliation experienced only by males from castration. Females do not experience a similar form of humiliation and change relative to males and other females when they lose their ovaries or go through menopause. Only males suffer this form of humiliation and loss of manhood.
Re: Male Castration vs Female Oophorectomy
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:55 pm
by racerboy (imported)
I've seen the theme in fiction that emasculated males suddenly lose all "dominance" and become submissive to any "entire" male. I have also wondered what truth there is in it: what evidence, if any, is there to support this notion? It seems contraindicated for example, by the fact that Chinese eunuchs seemed to have done quite well in positions of power and authority, including military generalship.
Re: Male Castration vs Female Oophorectomy
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:29 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Like all things human, it would vary from one person to another person in how they would act after being castrated and in how other people would act toward them if they knew about it.
I m guessing the chinese eunuchs were serving the empire s leaders and only had power as a worker for more powerful leaders, intact leaders who actually had the power to not be castrated and to back up the eunuchs who worked for them when needed. The eunuchs likely had no power or wealth of their own making or they wouldn t have been castrated willingly. Same with castrated singers at the time of their castrations by others.
Younger men and boys would likely be most affected in their peer groups by being castrated if it was widely known. Younger male s self esteem and social rank has more to do with physical size, strength, athletic ability, looks, sex appeal, and image. This is less true among older men. Wealth, jobs, knowledge, power, and less physical competition is more likely among older men. Older men have already had their kids and been married and enjoyed a long sex life. Younger men haven t done all of those to competion yet or even started on those. Younger men are still competing for women s affection and to win over wives to marry them. They might not be fathers yet.
Not all castrated men will automatically be subordinate to other intact males. Lots of older men with no balls might still be dominant over more masculine and intact men due to wealth or jobs or seniority in life.
But younger males would be losing more in sex and strength, be at more disadvantage competing with, have less to offer women, and would be missing more of life than their fertile, masculine, and intact age mates if they are castrated. They would have more trouble competing with other men if emasculated and if not given artificial testosterone to masculinize them .
But it would depend on the work and the valued male attributes of their peer groups and the women they lived with to determine how they would be treated and act with other people..