When I recently submitted one of my stories, “Jeopardy,” I received the following email from Paolo:

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I will be totally honest with you on this one. This is one hell of a read, and very to the point. It's very intense and well written, but I can't bring myself to let it out until the rest of the Staff here reads it and deems it suitable for the Archive.

This doesn't happen very often, but you know it could be my own personal issues clouding my judgment on this one and I think that it is only fair to include Bboy and Talula in the rest of this decision. You did well to put such a warning in the header as you did. Frankly, it upset me a great deal and I'm afraid that that's not what readers come here for. HOWEVER, it is on topic and should be out tomorrow with the approval of all involved in this decision.

As I said, this has only happened like once before and when I am not comfortable letting something out, we have a conference. I don't want my own personal feelings clouding the issue, especially since you took so much time to produce it.

I will let you know.

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I agree that the story is intense and upsetting. It’s a horror story designed to give a glimpse into the mind of a serial killer. It is NOT for what most people come to the archive. I have placed a warning in the header. This story is not for the squeamish. It is on topic, however.

I didn’t think that the readers here needed Paolo to protect them from a story which might be disturbing. Paolo and Bboy have every right to decide what should be posted to their archive, but I have the freedom of submitting stories-or not. Now, I’ll need to re-evaluate my decision to submit stories to this archive.

Slammr,

'Freedom of Expression'?

Live in the real world!

I really do think that, with this message & complaint, you're being both naive & ungrateful.

I defy you to find a more liberal free site on the web than eunuch.org..

I don't know what you've written but, if Paolo et al wish to consult over the tale, as I believe they once felt obliged over one of mine, they have every right.

Their correct real concern is the continuance of the board in its proper context, not every posters' entitlement to submit whatever they want, regardless of the outrage that they might (actually seek to!) cause.

I sometimes write at the edge but respect the board moderators' authority to draw me back if they want to because, respecting them tremendously as I do, I'm sure their reasons would be overwhelmingly proper!

PUEROS

Pueros:

You make a good point. This is the most liberal site that I know of on the Internet, and I acknowledged that Paolo and Bboy have the right to determine the content. I never said otherwise. My problem is with the following statement,

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Slammr (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2002 9:30 am Frankly, it upset me a great deal and I'm afraid that that's not what readers come here for.

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Although I agree with the statement-most readers come here for titillation-I think that there is room for more. Most don’t come for stories about Harry Potter either, but there’s a place for it. If there is any worry that my story could put the site at risk, then, of course, they shouldn’t post it. That wasn’t the message that I got, however.

From the responses that I’ve received on some of my stories, I would assume that I’m capable of writing one that is titillating. I want to do more, however. I want to reach some emotion other than the one which results in a hard cock. It is very possible that this is the wrong forum for that, but some of the responses led me to believe that some people wanted more.

Again, I’m not criticizing either Paolo or Bboy. They are doing an excellent job!

Slammr,

I was going to email you this, to tell you that after much consideration, I added some of the words of your warning that you sent me in private email to the header and posted it - against my own better judgement.

However, since YOU did not have the courtesy to do the same for me and posted a private email that I sent to you for the whole board to read, in fact, coming off as a whining toddler upset because he didn't immediately get his way in the process, I feel the need to lay some things out right NOW.

Authors do NOT have the RIGHT to post what they wish on here and expect to see it published on-site. It's all a courtesy. A courtesy which you have just kicked in the proverbial nuts. People dont' come here for a story that's going to upset them and put them in a mood for the rest of the day. People come here to read to get away, to feel good, and maybe even have a good wank or three in the process. In my opinion, since I'M the one IN CHARGE of the story boards and holding tank, I DO have the right to "protect" members from what I deem unsuitable. This site is supposed to be for 'support' for the eunuch community, and some degree of protection from the Moderators is part of the deal.

At least you acknowledged that part of it, thanks.

But perhaps you'd just rather that I release everything without even looking at it, and just let the Archive fill up with trash?

As for your rethinking your decision as to whether or not to post any more stories, well, I've never said this to an Author before, and certainly not on an open board, but after THIS, I couldn't possibly give a wild fuck less if you do or not.

I've enjoyed your stories up to this point, and considered you to be one of the better writers to come along here in a while. Like you, I'm now forced to rethink that decision in light of this uncalled-for post which should have been handled in private in the first place.

Your rights?

I asked you to be patient while I held an intense story for review, and then you go and post about your rights being violated?

Get a clue, pal. You dont' have the RIGHT to post a damn thing without Bboy's, Talula's, OR my say-so, so quit whining about it and just be glad that I let the damn thing out to the files and didnt' trash it.

I just hope that anyone that does read it isn't effected by it the way I was. It certainly isnt' something that I would have EVER read voluntarily, and I'm damn sorry that I was exposed to it.

There are plenty of other sites on the Internet for blood/gore/dismemberment stories, whether they involve castration or not. The same ideal applies to this topic as the pictures boards. Just because a story involves castration/penectomy/genital mods, there is a line, in my opinion, and you've crossed it.

You've crossed more than that line, as a matter of fact.

And in closing, I discussed HARRY POTTER with about 20 different readers beginning about a year ago. At least it didn't leave anyone crying and later vomitting after reading it, nor having flashbacks to being tortured much like some of the boys in the story. Thanks a lot. Told ya I had personal issues with it, much as I tried to keep them in check.

Thanks for setting me off, AGAIN.

Slammer you have gone way off the deep end. I though of you as a nice guy in the few E-mails we exchanged and by reading your stories, but seeing this, I feel like throwing up.

None of us authors has the right to post our stories. It is a honor to be able to post our stories here at EA.

If you want the rigth to post your stories, then start up your own web page, and give yourself the right to post.

I think you had better tell us all how sorry you are.

I'm... well, I don't know what I am. I guess I should just wait a day or so to let this issue play out before I say anything, except... No, I'll wait till I see how this plays out.

I honestly hope that this message in no way upsets anyone, but I would like to suggest a few things. Slammr certainly erred in posting a private email and, for that, pueros has a right to be upset. It is also certainly true that pueros has a right to reasonably moderate this site, as it is not public space. That being said, I can understand why pueros' email upset Slammr--it is not exactly clear what part of the story he found objectionable. I also have read the story and I, like pueros cautioned, did not enjoy it for all the reasons he outlined in his message board reply. BUT, while there are some very annoyed people here, and for good reason, there is not really cause for permanent anger and outrage over this. It is my sincere hope that Slammr will apologize to pueros, who will in turn understand why Slammr was upset and forgive him posting a private email in public. Also, we should not be adding fuel to this quarrel. And Erik, while I may agree in substance with your comments, I cannot agree with the tone; nothing here warrents vomitting, except perhaps my dinner.

Slammr (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2002 9:30 am When I recently submitted one of my stories, “Jeopardy,” I received the following email from Paolo:

Ouote/

I will be totally honest with you on this one. This is one hell of a read, and very to the point. It's very intense and well written, but I can't bring myself to let it out until the rest of the Staff here reads it and deems it suitable for the Archive.

This doesn't happen very often, but you know it could be my own personal issues clouding my judgment on this one and I think that it is only fair to include Bboy and Talula in the rest of this decision. You did well to put such a warning in the header as you did. Frankly, it upset me a great deal and I'm afraid that that's not what readers come here for. HOWEVER, it is on topic and should be out tomorrow with the approval of all involved in this decision.

As I said, this has only happened like once before and when I am not comfortable letting something out, we have a conference. I don't want my own personal feelings clouding the issue, especially since you took so much time to produce it.

I will let you know.

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I agree that the story is intense and upsetting. It’s a horror story designed to give a glimpse into the mind of a serial killer. It is NOT for what most people come to the archive. I have placed a warning in the header. This story is not for the squeamish. It is on topic, however.

I didn’t think that the readers here needed Paolo to protect them from a story which might be disturbing. Paolo and Bboy have every right to decide what should be posted to their archive, but I have the freedom of submitting stories-or not. Now, I’ll need to re-evaluate my decision to submit stories to this archive.

Slammr,

what you need to re-evaluate is your attitude and your lack of manners. it is simply bad manners to publicly post private correspondence. it is low and just not a nice thing to do.

you wrote a story that pushed the limits and received a polite explanation of why it was not being posted immediately. Paolo was not obligated to explain anything to you and yet he did.

as for your concept of freedom of expression -- it is childishly simplistic at the very least. freedom of expression is not and had never been absolute -- even here in America.

you seem to forget that freedom of expression is a two way street. you were free to write your story and did. the site moderators were equally free to accept or reject publication of your story on this site. that is the way the system works. no one is guaranteed publication. thousands (and probably more) of artists submit their works (paintings, sculpture, movies, music, stories, etc) every day and are rejected for various reasons. their freedom of expression has not been denied. they expressed themselves -- they just weren't published, displayed, or played.

so, your "freedom of expression" wasn't in any way impinged. you wrote your story without any prior restraints. those who moderate this site exercised their rights to determine whether or not they would accept it. in short -- everything worked just as it was supposed to work.

you owe Paolo an apology.

david

The reson I threw up is I read the story before I postd my reply and I had just eaten.

Oh well, there goes dinner

I have to confess that when I submitted my earlier response to Slammr’s message, I did not know that he was quoting a confidential mail from Paolo without authority. In my own naïve way, I mistakenly presumed that our great, hard-working and devoted moderator, in line with his known liberalism, had permitted the reproduction of his correspondence in order to engender lively debate about a sensitive issue.

Slammr’s sly action has certainly done that but he has only really succeeded in diverting the thread away from his main point to the subject of breach of trust. He may have wanted the topic to centre round his perceived right to ‘freedom of expression’. However, his wrecking of Paolo’s right to confidentiality in personal communications has not only destroyed his intent but also ruined any moral position he might have wanted to assume.

I not only share Paolo’s obvious outrage but also can appreciate his hurt.

The man does not deserve such brazenly unappreciative and debased attitudes by board users. He certainly does deserve profuse apologies from the miscreants and the copious support of others, and quickly!

PUEROS