Herbal Estrogen Castration without Feminization
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:46 am
Hi, I was a member of these forums 2 or 3 years ago and I was always talking about not using pharmaceuticals and such. Well, I have been undergoing a self-administered treatment for a year and it has been going really well.
Scroll to the bottom if you want to hear about how to take red clover, but all of this information is important.
After having studied many estrogenic herbs, I decided that red clover was the most powerful in addition to being the least expensive of all options and being the safest. My goal was hopefully feminization along with reduced sex drive, but it turns out that red clover has not caused me any significant feminization. The herb works this way because it acts on the Estrogen Alpha cell receptors 10x as much as the Estrogen Beta receptors. Estrogen Alpha receptors affect things like lips, nipples, vagina and seemingly even voice box. Over my years of taking red clover, the first thing I noticed was much smoother, silkier skin. Even the genitals I hate are fun to touch.
After that, it took a little while, but I was sure that I was being feminized in some subtle way and sure enough, my arousal went from being a problem to being a bit more controllable. Over time, it just got weaker and weaker... However, taking the herb got me really aroused and basically forced masturbation to happen.
Then there was an important effect. My genital skin started growing lighter, sometimes looking like the skin on the rest of my body. I read about that change and found out that puberty caused the darkening of genitals so that meant that I was truly reversing puberty with undeniable evidence. Additionally, the head of the penis has become more frictionless and I think fatty (which I have heard of happening before to a penis becoming vestigial) and it is starting to look significantly bigger than the shaft.
Cutting to now, I can really restrain my arousal very easily. I got days without remembering having gotten aroused. I feel like I have been nearly castrated as I can take the herb about once a month or longer and not feel any masculine hormones coming out. Surely over a few more months, this process can be complete. However, I also haven't had any of the bone problems associated with castration so it is possible that I am producing a different mix of hormones now.
If you were to keep up my current state, I bet that you would be satisfied enough as a chemical castration....
Although very recently, I have been feeling like I can start to transform into a real female. Even though all of the people spreading transgender information say your voice can never change without practice, it seems like my voice is naturally changing into a female one. (Those same people would say you need an anti-androgen to have any success with a hormone regimen, but they are wrong when it comes to red clover at least. They could very well be holding their whole movement back if a non-surgical transformation can occur from this like I theorize, but they were never receptive to the information.)
Additionally, it is said that your penis shrinks if you start to lose most erections and it seems like I could very well lose nearly all erections. Adding on the effects of the herbs, I feel like transformation might be possible.
Anyway, here is my herbal regimen. I started with buying a pound of red clover from Mountain Rose Herbs, (there seem to be foreign brands that sell it too) which sold that pound for about $14 (and the amount is actually enormous and I haven't gone through that whole package yet after using it rather heavily for a year). Now, at first I thought I could just eat it raw, but it turns out that estrogenic herbs are very dangerous to eat raw. They have parasites that will attack a vital organ that you don't want attack.... You are better off not knowing, so make sure to boil your red clover for 20-40 minutes on low heat before consuming.
As for dosages, you should start out eating the red clover 3 times a week. I would say, two tablespoons on those 3 days. After your testosterone surges from taking the herb start to decrease, go to eating red clover every 3 days in an amount of 2 tablespoons. If you are not feeling any real side effects from the red clover, you should make the dosage into a handful of red clover per week. After a month, you can try waiting for longer amounts of time, but you should never have to go past the amount of a handful.
There is no serious side effect to eating excessive red clover except for blood thinning effects.... However, since estrogen is known for causing blood clots, this is actually a benefit in the dosages you will be taking. With other varieties of clover, the blood thinning effect is a problem, but with red clover, I feel like I am facing only the effects of estrogen, toned down.
Scroll to the bottom if you want to hear about how to take red clover, but all of this information is important.
After having studied many estrogenic herbs, I decided that red clover was the most powerful in addition to being the least expensive of all options and being the safest. My goal was hopefully feminization along with reduced sex drive, but it turns out that red clover has not caused me any significant feminization. The herb works this way because it acts on the Estrogen Alpha cell receptors 10x as much as the Estrogen Beta receptors. Estrogen Alpha receptors affect things like lips, nipples, vagina and seemingly even voice box. Over my years of taking red clover, the first thing I noticed was much smoother, silkier skin. Even the genitals I hate are fun to touch.
After that, it took a little while, but I was sure that I was being feminized in some subtle way and sure enough, my arousal went from being a problem to being a bit more controllable. Over time, it just got weaker and weaker... However, taking the herb got me really aroused and basically forced masturbation to happen.
Then there was an important effect. My genital skin started growing lighter, sometimes looking like the skin on the rest of my body. I read about that change and found out that puberty caused the darkening of genitals so that meant that I was truly reversing puberty with undeniable evidence. Additionally, the head of the penis has become more frictionless and I think fatty (which I have heard of happening before to a penis becoming vestigial) and it is starting to look significantly bigger than the shaft.
Cutting to now, I can really restrain my arousal very easily. I got days without remembering having gotten aroused. I feel like I have been nearly castrated as I can take the herb about once a month or longer and not feel any masculine hormones coming out. Surely over a few more months, this process can be complete. However, I also haven't had any of the bone problems associated with castration so it is possible that I am producing a different mix of hormones now.
If you were to keep up my current state, I bet that you would be satisfied enough as a chemical castration....
Although very recently, I have been feeling like I can start to transform into a real female. Even though all of the people spreading transgender information say your voice can never change without practice, it seems like my voice is naturally changing into a female one. (Those same people would say you need an anti-androgen to have any success with a hormone regimen, but they are wrong when it comes to red clover at least. They could very well be holding their whole movement back if a non-surgical transformation can occur from this like I theorize, but they were never receptive to the information.)
Additionally, it is said that your penis shrinks if you start to lose most erections and it seems like I could very well lose nearly all erections. Adding on the effects of the herbs, I feel like transformation might be possible.
Anyway, here is my herbal regimen. I started with buying a pound of red clover from Mountain Rose Herbs, (there seem to be foreign brands that sell it too) which sold that pound for about $14 (and the amount is actually enormous and I haven't gone through that whole package yet after using it rather heavily for a year). Now, at first I thought I could just eat it raw, but it turns out that estrogenic herbs are very dangerous to eat raw. They have parasites that will attack a vital organ that you don't want attack.... You are better off not knowing, so make sure to boil your red clover for 20-40 minutes on low heat before consuming.
As for dosages, you should start out eating the red clover 3 times a week. I would say, two tablespoons on those 3 days. After your testosterone surges from taking the herb start to decrease, go to eating red clover every 3 days in an amount of 2 tablespoons. If you are not feeling any real side effects from the red clover, you should make the dosage into a handful of red clover per week. After a month, you can try waiting for longer amounts of time, but you should never have to go past the amount of a handful.
There is no serious side effect to eating excessive red clover except for blood thinning effects.... However, since estrogen is known for causing blood clots, this is actually a benefit in the dosages you will be taking. With other varieties of clover, the blood thinning effect is a problem, but with red clover, I feel like I am facing only the effects of estrogen, toned down.