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Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:22 pm
by uqekizig1601 (imported)
Any tips?

I'm a trans girl (used to identify as a eunuch) and I've been taking hormones for 10 months. Doses: 4 mg estradiol and 100 mg spironolactone a day. Spiro has a bad reputation compared to cypro, but this regimen has successfully nuked my T, from 385 ng/dL to 6 ng/dL.

I won't be able to afford an orchiectomy for a long time. I've been thinking about castration with these rubber bands: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HHLZ82/re ... DzbETXVT70

Is there a high chance of sepsis or anything requiring an ER visit? Will the scrotum fall off on its own or do I have to cut it off?

It's time to be castrated because anti-androgens are bad for health long-term. Spironolactone is suspected to be carcinogenic, and it causes changes to the kidneys. Having to use anti-androgens holds back transition, many anecdotes reveal that physical changes from transition accelerate after orchiectomy (bigger breasts for example) because more of the estrogen is freed instead of being wasted to counteract testosterone, something like that.

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:17 pm
by Tany Squirrel (imported)
Hello and welcome!

though i may be out on a limb here, i wouldn't recommend banding, it can lead to a lot of bad effects, Gangrene, for one. The last thing you want is something rotting inside you and causing sepsis and perhaps death, if not done correctly. I would recommend something else that would chemically castrate, instead, until you can afford and orchy.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:15 am
by uqekizig1601 (imported)
Tany Squirrel (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:17 pm Hello and welcome!

though i may be out on a limb here, i wouldn't recommend banding, it can lead to a lot of bad effects, Gangrene, for one. The last thing you want is something rotting inside you and causing sepsis and perhaps death, if not done correctly. I would recommend something else that would chemically castrate, instead, until you can afford and orchy.

Better to be safe than sorry.

I thought sepsis isn't a concern because the tight rubber band keeps dead tissue separate from the blood supply. Sepsis would happen if you remove the rubber band too early

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:32 am
by Losethem (imported)
I'll be brief. Don't do it this way.

You have other options and self-surgery or banding is risking your good health. As previously noted, you could end up with sepsis (and trust me, having been down the sepsis road myself, you don't want that), and you could also end up with a variety of other complications.

You're 18, don't be in such a hurry. Think out your path, and follow it, but please don't look for shortcuts. Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.

I'd like you to reach your goal, but do so safely. Banding isn't safe.

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:32 am
by Dave (imported)
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uqekizig1601 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:22 pm Is there a high chance of sepsis or anything requiring an ER visit? Will the scrotum fall off on its own or do I have to cut it off?

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The human scrotum will not fall off on its own.

Once flesh dies it does rot but long before it could fall off, it will stink like nothing I can describe in words.

Another disadvantage is that any Banding with anything will leave an ugly scar. If you want some aesthetic value (smoothness, reasonable appearing lady parts) then a surgeon has to do the deed.

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:20 pm
by Hash (imported)
Certainly animals are banded using a specialized banding tool, but humans are different and the results of banding won't be cosmetically pretty. It's also true that a portion of the scrotum is used to form labia on trans-women. I would suggest that you reach out to your physician and ask for help, sometimes they can network to get you the surgery you need at little to no cost. You might also reach out to the trans community and ask for their help too. There are some people who can and will put you in touch with people to get you the surgery you so desperately desire. Please be patient and work hard to get this done correctly and safely.

http://tarasresources.net/srs.html

https://jimcollinsfoundation.org/apply/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-to-pay- ... n-surgery/

http://mytransitionfunding.org/

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:12 am
by Shepherdsflock (imported)
Definitely a bad idea. I did some dangerous things when I was younger trying to put an end to my genital dysphoria and I'm lucky that pain is all I experienced. Go to a therapist who specializes in gender issues and get on track for treatment that won't put your life in danger. The more I learn about castration, the more I am convinced that it is something that should not be approached without medical supervision. Not even chemical castration.

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:36 pm
by SplitDik (imported)
Elastrator castration does not work well on its own -- you will end up in the ER and suffer a serious wound. Here is a picture of one guy's open gangreneous wound after elastrator: http://wiki.bmezine.com/images/a/a3/Elastrator-3.jpg. There is another picture before the balls are removed where the balls have turned green due to rot.

Basically elastrator means your balls will actually rot off. The smell alone will be horrendous -- imagine meat left out for two weeks. The problem is that while the elastrator will certainly kill the balls, the wound is difficult to heal -- the body won't easily heal the area at the band because until the band is removed all the body knows is that it is constricted but there is no open wound to heal.

In other words, it will only heal once the wound is opened and the wound in this case is quite complicated -- it has layers of skin, spermatic cords, ligaments, blood vessels and nerves, none of which will be terminated properly by banding.

Even those undergoing surgical castration face a lengthy healing process, but at least in those cases the blood supply is properly terminated, the spermatic cords properly truncated, the skin properly sutured and the whole thing done sterilely.

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:59 pm
by Prismatic (imported)
Go to the chemical castration section of these forums and look for the calcium chloride thread. Not riskless but certainly seems less risky than letting tissue die while attached to you, and having read every post in it a lot of people had success. If my supply of cyproterone is cut off before I can get surgery that's what I plan to do.

You could also consider switching to cyproterone for the time being rather than taking spiro. I'm on 4mg estradiol valerate and 12.5mg cyproterone per day and my test is utterly nuked. 13ng/dL last test. I used to be on spiro, too. Spiro is complete garbage in my opinion. The side effects are too annoying; the difference when I switched to cypro was like night and day. On top of this, at the low dosages required when one is taking estrogen with cypro, the risks are minimized and liver damage isn't much of a concern unless you already have a compromised liver. If you were to start cypro I'd advise starting at 50mg/day and halving that after some months, when it has firmly taken effect, and seeing if it works at 25mg/day. Then after more months cutting it down to 12.5mg/day and seeing if that still works. Less is more with AA's, IMO. You want to take the lowest dose that will get the job done. Most mtfs I personally know who take cypro are fine at a dose of 12.5mg per day, and there is even a french study (I don't have a link but I imagine it would be very easy to find) which showed that 10mg worked for most individuals on mtf HRT. Worth consideration while you figure out how you want your balls removed in a safer manner than banding.

Re: Trans girl seriously contemplating DIY castration with rubber bands. Good/bad idea?

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:19 pm
by sparkey49 (imported)
I would also recommend the Calcium Chloride over banding it worked for myself 4 years ago and for numerous others!