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ZOOTOPIA is an animated movie where all the animals have intelligence and live (more or less) in harmony.

The plot is simple -- a Bunny becomes the first ever policeman bunny and must fight discrimination from wolves, bulls, foxes and the like.

It's for kids abut an adult can enjoy it. It is fun to watch.

The discrimination aspect is front and center.

But don't let that deter you. It's still fun.
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Thank you for the review. There is speculation that Disney did this after looking at the attendance numbers for Pittsburgh's Anthrocon, and wanted a part of it themselves. There is a community of people who play-act a Character like the ones seen in this movie, and that character is called a Fursona.

These people call themselves Furries, and there are several on board here.

I do not go to movies much, but I went to see this one in the matinee 4 times. it was good, I own the DVD and the Blu-ray, and I do collect the figures and other toys related to the movie. Kinda hard because for what ever reason, Disney did not fire up it's merchandise machine for Zootopia.

So what has happened? The fandom that it was more or less targeted at has responded with an outpouring of art and stories that is huge, stories that try to continue the magic of the movie, ask what would happen if the main characters fell in love and acted on that love. Stories where one of them is hurt, or one dies. the outpouring is not as big and thorough as the My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic fandom, but give it time, it will grow.
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If you look up deleted scenes for the movie, it's interesting that a subplot that abandoned was the use of stun collars for predators. If the predator got too emotional, the collar would knock him/her down with a shock and pain. There was a scene with a young bear having what amounted to a Bar Mitzvah type celebration, where predator cubs were collared when they came of age. He got too excited over his presents, etc., and immediately got stunned. Test audience reactions were mostly negative, so the plot was scrapped. The flashback scene to Nic as a pup, getting muzzled at a Scout meeting, was also nearly scrapped.

Personally, I didn't like the movie. Ten minutes in, and I wanted to strangle that rabbit.
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There was also a sub-plot of a pair of gerbils making life rough for Nick, as they would trigger his shock collar with neither excuse nor emotion, just to be mean to him.

I loved the movie, and hope they make sequels
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Paolo wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:59 am If you look up deleted scenes for the movie, it's interesting that a subplot that abandoned was the use of stun collars for predators. If the predator got too emotional, the collar would knock him/her down with a shock and pain. There was a scene with a young bear having what amounted to a Bar Mitzvah type celebration, where predator cubs were collared when they came of age. He got too excited over his presents, etc., and immediately got stunned. Test audience reactions were mostly negative, so the plot was scrapped. The flashback scene to Nic as a pup, getting muzzled at a Scout meeting, was also nearly scrapped.

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That's a perfectly dreadful subplot.
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Eunuchorn (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:34 pm There is speculation that Disney did this after looking at the attendance numbers for Pittsburgh's Anthrocon, and wanted a part of it themselves. There is a community of people who play-act a Character like the ones seen in this movie, and that character is called a Fursona.

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The Furries of Arthrocon didn't scare the people of downtown Pittsburgh as much as the Leather Men who appeared at the Gay Pride Parade a number of years ago. The gang of isolated commentators in Pittsburgh think the FUrries are just being silly. THE leather Men appeared in ass-less leather chaps and pranced around Liberty Avenue on the same day that the Symphony had a concert, musical theater was at the Benedum, and a play at the Public Theater. Lots saw the display of silliness of ass-less chaps. bare butts, bare chests, PDA's and all that simply scandalized and caused clucking but that was all.

I have the feeling that Pittsburgh likes the furries, though. It's like they think it is cute and fun.

This is a strange town.
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You should watch the patients in a children's hospital light up when a fursuiter pays them a visit. Silly? sure. but it kinda loses the silly part when the kid gets better or has a significant uptick in his recovery because of seeing one of us. Furry has Fursuiting as just one of it's aspects. the Suits themselves are usually but not always handmade, and can run you a grand in cost. the other aspects are art and stories, and there are plenty of websites just for those causes.
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There wasn't a neutering subplot, either.

Then again, I don't think that would have gone over well with the parents... :-|
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Eunuchorn (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:51 pm You should watch the patients in a children's hospital light up when a fursuiter pays them a visit. Silly? sure. but it kinda loses the silly part when the kid gets better or has a significant uptick in his recovery because of seeing one of us. Furry has Fursuiting as just one of it's aspects. the Suits themselves are usually but not always handmade, and can run you a grand in cost. the other aspects are art and stories, and there are plenty of websites just for those causes.

I plan to go to the conference if and when it happens. I don't think they ar silly but I hear comments from the crowds at the concert hall and the theater. Some of these people are so completely brainwashed by a certain unmentionable political news channel that they are simply stooges to the propaganda.

I just smile at their comments and hope the furries are having fun.
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Paolo wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:08 pm There wasn't a neutering subplot, either.

Then again, I don't think that would have gone over well with the parents... :-|

Explaining neutering to kiddies -- that might mean discussing sex...

the other night I watched CHICKEN RUN... and I tell the story of being in the theater with about 2 dozen people and when the giant, humongous and rather evil-looking Chicken Pot Pie machine is turned on with our two chicken heroes, Rocky and Ginger, being fed into it... a tiny voice behind me says "Grandpa, are they going to EAT Ginger!" and the response was the b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b,b stutter of a truly puzzle grandfather who didn't have a clue what part of that movie was for kids.

For those who haven't seen it -- Tweedy's Chicken Farm is a concentration camp on the order of Stalag 17 in THE GREAT ESCAPE. There are guard dogs, barbed wire and the isolation bunker with Rocky mimicking Paul Newman bouncing a ball off the walls.
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