Dear all,

I was wondering about the loss of sexual interests that seems to

be unavoidable after castration.

I would like to have a partner in life, but sexuality is quite important

in couple, and if I show no interest in it, it may be a no-go for most

men (I am more inclined towards them).

Even for me, sexuality either genital or giving pleasure is source

of lot of enjoyment. I was picturing a eunuch/ non-eunuch sex life

source of mutual pleasure on the basis of penetration mainly. But

I am not even sure that to be penetrated is a source of actual pleasure

or just a way to please the partner.

So I guess my question is : is there a possibility of fulfilling sex life for actual

eunuch? Eventually, do hormonal/surgical feminization (without full gender

reassignement, I don't want a vagina either) could lead to such sex life?

This might look at a fantasy question but it's an actual concern. The main

concern is having a long term partner in life.

Bst

In order to maintain sexual desire after castration, the eunuch must use HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy). That means that the eunuch (castrated male) must replace the testosterone (some say even a little o/estrogen) via some form of testosterone. If the eunuch does not replace or add back some testosterone the eunuch penis will shrink considerably due to lack of nocturnal erections, the eunuch will gain weight and lose muscle tone, the eunuch cries more easily, and as you said, will lose almost all sexual desire. So if the eunuch wants to remain sexual, you must add back hormones i.e. testosterone. The eunuch will need a prescription since any form of testosterone is now a controlled substance. Just so you know, once castrated, you can control your testosterone levels somewhat, however, be careful!

At first, after I was castrated, I stopped using testosterone for an extended period of time, then due to depression, I started using a low dose regimen of testosterone, just enough to ward off depression and osteoporosis. After using a low dose regimen of testosterone replacement for over five years post castration, I decided to increase my testosterone levels because I was starting to feel sluggish, tired, and wanted to regain some muscle tone and even some higher sexual function. I started using more testosterone cream, doubling the amount I had been using for five years, however, it didn't work the way I thought it would. My body had adjusted to the low level amount of testosterone and when I tried to increase the amount/dosage, it had an adverse effect. I began to feminize even more and my penis shrunk even more. When I complained to my urologist she told me that my daily low dose regimen of testosterone had stabilized my body to that specific amount. She said that using a low dose amount of testosterone had caused my body to adjust itself to that low amount and so that when I decided to increase the amount of testosterone in my body by increasing the daily dosage, my body rejected it and processed it through the aromatase action turning it into estrogen. The aromatase action is an adrenal enzyme that converts androstenedione (testosterone precursor) and estrone to estrogen. That's why I was feminizing more. She thought that if I tried to increase my testosterone more gradually that eventually it would regulate itself and turn into testosterone. However, it did not work, my penis got smaller and smaller and my breasts got bigger. Even after I stopped trying to increase my T-levels and returned to the low amount that I had been using previously for five years, it didn't stop the effects. I had accidentally turned on the aromatase switch so that my body started to reject testosterone altogether.

After another year of trying all sorts of regimens and nothing really working and my estrogen levels remaining high, I started to mentally turn against my penis, one day I just realized it had to go, my mind was telling me it shouldn't be there, that I should not have a penis, it was wrong. Now I had fantasized about a penectomy throughout my life, but it was always fantasy, even though I had desired castration, I had never considered cutting off my penis, but the aromatase action, according to my female urologist, was now turning most of the testosterone I was using into estrogen, which is what happens to some male body builders. So now my body was making more estrogen and turning me, making me more and more feminine. This transformation made me, looking back, cut off my penis. I didn't realize this until recently, but it all made sense. Once the proverbial light was switched on and estrogen was in charge and my dominant hormone, my penectomy fantasy became a real need and desire. I had to remove my penis and became delirious about it. For the next few years all I could think about was getting it removed. I even visited a sex-change doctor, but she wouldn't do it. So I slowly cut it off and I don't miss it, in fact, I can't remember it. My body took away the memories of it. Sounds odd, but it's true. Today my testosterone levels have finally stabilized at an extreme low, last test was about 102 ng/dL, normal healthy males average somewhere about 600-1000 ng/dL's of testosterone in their bodies. Normal female estradiol levels (estrogen) are 10-40 pg/ml, my estrogen levels are 68 pg/ml's.

So be careful and don't mess around with your testosterone. I am more feminine today, which is okay for me, but it might not be for you. What happened to me might not happen to you. Hope it doesn't, but be careful.

Hash is right on! I went 2.5 years no T and pretty much all desire and function was gone and must add effects like brain fog, muscle ache, heart and breathing issues and more side effects. With TRT most desire is retuned but not everything like penus size, ability to self stimulate etc. so I always say make sure you are prepared mentally for whatever may be your personal outcome and good luck to all!

Thank you for these responses,

@Hash you seem to have gone through quite a painful way and I appreciate your warnings. Thank you a lot for taking time to be clear and specific about your story. You state that you feel more feminine today and that you are ok with that. I think I would be OK as well.

Taking lower dose of testosterone after being castrated might be a good deal during transition, to avoid depression at least.

Now that you feel more feminine, do you still have no interest in any sexual activity (being penetrated for instance)?

@sparkey49 thank for your answer, I can see it looks like a rough path with no way back anyway. If TRT allows desire to return it sound like you can be quite feminized and yet having desires or am I wrong?

I really don't have any sexual desire or sexual feelings, Once in a blue moon something might stir me sexually speaking, but it's usually here one minute and gone the next. I can and do concentrate on other desires, like playing the stock market swing trading. I'd rather trade stocks than engage in any form of sex. I sometimes have to force myself to visit the Eunuch Archives and I suppose someday I'll do what Andrew did, he left the EA for good some years ago. Miss Andrew.

P.S. Age plays a huge role in sexually. The older you get as a eunuch, the less sexual you tend to be.

Yes with T or what I understand with E there is some return of sex drive though I know for myself it is different than before being more focused on my partner(my wife) and far less on myself. I am pleased with where I am now though I did like the part of no sex drive, no erections,shrinking penus (which has remained as I still very rarely get any spontaneous erections and only with stimulating by my wife). I only ended up going on T for other health reasons which if not for I would still be no T! My wife is very pleased with how it is now being more focused on her than ever in 35 plus years of marriage compared to when I was no T.

@Hash So if someone become an eunuch while not wanting total absence of sex life, it's better to do it earlier?

I wouldn't like to take 10 years on a decision if these years have wrong outcome.

It's not only about the sex life, but the fact to have a partner in life, which is quite important to me. And I guess lot of

people would not be interested with a partner that show no interest at all in sex. But according to your answers it

seems possible to have sex drive while being eunuch, which sounds reassuring.

@sparkley This make sense that sex drive nature changes with E or T. If I may ask, do you have noticed some

kind of behavior or physical changes towards feminine attitude? (sorry for my bad english, it is late here!)

I am still very male though but am more emotional. The aromatase issue is real for myself to some degree like Hash but evidently not as bad as I am able to keep Estrogen manageable around 60 to 70 which is lower than when I started T which was over 100 by the use of DIM supplement. The doctor who administers my T says I have to have it to curb Estrogen production. He said my estrogen was so high and definitely feminizing (man boobs,fat distribution,weight gain etc) because my body couldn't produce testosterone but could produce Estrogen so the body thinks that is better than nothing. I have lost about 15 of the 40 pounds I gained but it is not easy and I had never had a weight issue before. I went from 160 to over 200 pounds. The doctor figures it could take 18 months or so for my body to readjust so we will have to wait and see.

Thank you for sharing your personal experience. Your experience is so educational and thought provoking, especially for those who desire to remain masculine as much as possible following castration, and is a very informative caution about the use and experimentation with testosterone replacement. Many thanks again.

nutless1 (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:49 am Thank you for sharing your personal experience. Your experience is so educational and thought provoking, especially for those who desire to remain masculine as much as possible following castration, and is a very informative caution about the use and experimentation with testosterone replacement. Many thanks again.

Maybe that explains my wanting to cut off my penis when I am on anything but a very low dose of T. I have virtually no sex drive on the low dose I am using and seems even less when I double it. It is hard on my partner who really enjoys sex but does not want to always have to initiate it. My doctor stopped checking T levels when I would not use the amount she wanted me on. Still waiting to get to see the gender specialist after nearly two years. Our system up here is so slow to respond to anything but life and death situations.