Gee, that was a brutal and violent episode.

Season 7 started out in ways I don't want to describe tonight.

Gimme a day or two.

I can honestly say that I have never wanted a TWD episode to end more than I did this one. By 9:50 p.m., the horrors were still happening, and I was ready to turn it off. I didn't, but that's how truly disturbing and unsettling this episode was. I haven't been able to get the images out of my head all day.

I think that they you;d have done all of that episode in 15 minutes as the climax of Season 6. Then the entire audience would be looking to Season 7 as what happens in the aftermath of that.

I don't watch the HOSTEL or SAW movies or things like "Cannibal Holocaust" or anything like that. It's not that I don't watch gory or violent movies but some gore and violence is merely gratuitous.

To explain about this: The cliffhanger of last season was the coming of a character named Negan who has a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire. Negan is a psychopathic killer and leads group of survivors in pillage and theft. Season 6 ended with Negan killing one of the show regulars. No one knew which one. That's the cliffhanger.

Season 7 opened with that killing and another of the regulars was killed off. Then Negan took Rick Grimes on a ride to break him. In that ride we see the killings a second time on the grossest detail through Rick Grime's POV. Still not satisfied Negan brings Rick back to the survivors and orders him to chop off his son's hand. That doesn't happen but the entire episode in nothing but brutality, mental torture, and the worst of the violence.

Like I said above. I think they could have done this better at the end of last season and then explored the changes this season.

I've watched the shocking moments videos from WD on Youtube from Watchmojo, and this show has NO appeal to me.

I found HOSTEL boring, and "Cannibal Holocaust" put me to sleep twice.

As for other TV, I've given up on FLASH, and GOTHAM 3 is really pissing me off.

Paolo wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:43 pm I've watched the shocking moments videos from WD on Youtube from Watchmojo, and this show has NO appeal to me.

Don't get me wrong. I'm watching Akira Kurosawa's RAN (Chaos) and it's a bloody retelling of King Leer in Feudal Japan. It has some of the bloodiest scenes you will ever see on film. However, there is depth to the story beyond merely creating a bad guy and psychopathically evil like Negan in TWD. (BTW - Like King Leer, RAN is the end days of a Kingdom because the King gave away his land to his sons and they aren't ready.)

Paolo wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:43 pm I've watched the shocking moments videos from WD on Youtube from Watchmojo, and this show has NO appeal to me.

I found HOSTEL boring, and "Cannibal Holocaust" put me to sleep twice.

As for other TV, I've given up on FLASH, and GOTHAM 3 is really pissing me off.

Last week was the last time I'll watch "DC's Legends of Tomorrow." I sat through a first season of silliness and the first two episodes of Season 2. These guys are just running around having fun messing with time travel. Hey, if you enjoy that kind of carefree sci-fi, great. To each his own. I think it's utter nonsense, and I won't sit through another hour waiting for that dreck to be over.

HorseRenoir1 (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:04 pm Last week was the last time I'll watch "DC's Legends of Tomorrow."

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I never did watch "DC legends of Tomorrow"... I also didn't watch the Marvel heroes TV spinoffs. I liked most of the Marvel Comics movies but that got to be too much. In fact, much of the new Marvel movies are too much. I haven't paid to watch the latest "Civil War." I find all that angst and egotistical movement in the characters contrived and annoying.

When I Can watch "X-Men Apocalypse" free, I will but I won't pay for it.

I watched two episodes of TIMELESS and after the third one I gave up. It not only was scientifically absurd but historically inaccurate in ways I found offensive.

I started watching FLASH and gave up before the first season ended.

I lasted one episode of GOTHAM.

Okay seen it.

I guess the zombies sorry walkers haven't got such a bad life after all.

All the folks at work were sort of right about who got it.

I hope this season doesn't have a couple of "Interesting" episodes followed by another 10 or so boring ones.

Episode 2 was very much lighter than the premier episode...

However, Chris Hardwick at the beginning of THE TALKING DEAD made a comment to that effect, to paraphrase:

That this was a gentler episode than the week before and that the audience had a week to calm down and if you were Howard Stern that means that you just finished masturbating.

Now I don't know why he singled out Howard Stern like that.

However, in the episode King Ezekiel and his tiger Shiva were introduced. Yes, he has a pet tiger.

Dave (imported) wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:26 pm Episode 2 was very much lighter than the premier episode...

However, Chris Hardwick at the beginning of THE TALKING DEAD made a comment to that effect, to paraphrase:

That this was a gentler episode than the week before and that the audience had a week to calm down and if you were Howard Stern that means that you just finished masturbating.

Now I don't know why he singled out Howard Stern like that.

However, in the episode King Ezekiel and his tiger Shiva were introduced. Yes, he has a pet tiger.

I didn't understand the Stern reference either. Something subtle, no doubt. Good episode, though. Got some chuckles through Carol's reaction to Ezekiel.