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Star Trek Beyond

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:55 pm
by Hopeful1 (imported)
I am a Trekkie. On DVD I have the entire original series, the entire ST Voyager and the entire ST Enterprise. I also have in my scrapbook a piece of paper with the following on it. "To (old male name), Live long and prosper. (signed) Gene Roddenberry." All that being said, I'm not a big fan of the current alternate timeline Star Trek movies although they are okay. We went to see Star Trek Beyond today and it was pretty good and it's worth seeing if you're a Star Trek fan. I do really hate the fast camera cuts being used now to make the action look faster and there are a ton of those. There are a couple of really good tributes in the movie including one head nod to the LGBT community. No spoilers from me but I will say the storyline is actually variation on a classic novel. If you see the movie, tell us if you know what novel it was.

Re: Star Trek Beyond

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:06 pm
by Paolo
I always thought the novel "Prime Directive" would have been a good one to make into a movie.

I refuse to watch this one, though. I don't know why I watched the second one.

Hated the first one, too.

Re: Star Trek Beyond

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:21 am
by ambiguous (imported)
Tried to watch it over here on the internet but its still a "Cam" and cams have a horrible habit of spoiling what was a good film.

Will wait for the quality to get better and have another go.

Hope there plenty of "Tribbles" in this one and Spock does a rendition of "Bilbo Baggins" at some point.

It has been getting good press over here so I'm sure I won't be disappointed.

Re: Star Trek Beyond

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:24 pm
by Dave (imported)
I've watched the two movies (STAR TREK the reboot, and STAR TREK: Into Darkness) and they were too familiar, too pat, too much the same with the past Star Trek because the directors and producers of these big budget extravaganzas are too afraid of fans. There's too much the same about all of them to do anything more than entertain with big-screen spectacle.

Re: Star Trek Beyond

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:14 pm
by ambiguous (imported)
I suppose when you go to see one of these films you are buying into a franchise and all of its cliches .

The first person to beam down is usually a bit part actor that "Gets it" in the first few nano seconds,its all part of it.

I do have the attention span of a goldfish so will have to watch this in hourly episodes as most films nowadays seem overlong to me.

I like escapism and hope this delivers it

Re: Star Trek Beyond

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:45 am
by HorseRenoir1 (imported)
I saw the preview a week ago Thursday. I've been a huge fan of the franchise since 1976, when I was in the second grade. Thank you for putting into words one aspect of Justin Lin's direction that had been bothering me: the fast camera cuts. This technique is being employed more and more in action films, particularly where visual effects are involved. They make it very difficult for the viewer to really see what is happening - second by second, moment by moment - in a given sequence, usually because the director has "cut" the final scene in such a way that you are literally seeing a different picture every single second. I don't think the brain can process images that quickly. At least my brain can't. That's why I've been finding action films with CGI more frustrating in the past few years.

Justin Lin employs these "quick cuts" several times during the action sequences in "Star Trek Beyond," particularly in one scene - in the dark - where Kirk and Chekov are trying to escape from the villains by sliding down the surface of a structure while firing back "up" at the bad guys.

Overall, I don't think I enjoyed the film ... but there are several things to like about it if you're a Star Trek fan. I'll try to swing back here later and share some of them.

Re: Star Trek Beyond

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:11 am
by Dave (imported)
I dislike fast cuts.

In THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM, Bourne arranges to meet the supportive Landry at Tudor City on 42nd Street. I spent a summer living in Tudor City in New York. IT is five or six buildings and is right across from the United Nations. It is built above the First Avenue side of the complex, rising from Second Avenue four stories up to First Avenue. The cuts in the Bourne Ultimatum were so fast that you could barely see the buildings and Tudor Park that is in the middle of the complex. IT has characteristics iron fences that if you blinked, you missed seeing. Talk about location stupidity.

I'm not going to the theater as it is raining cats and dogs and puppies and kittens today. So STAR TREK: BEYOND will wait for cable. This is all CGI and fast cuts in CGI are just plain being cheap, cheap, cheap...