I am kind of shocked! To the background:

I am on triptorelin because I am agender and I have problems with my sexuality. My testosterone level is almost zero now and I am very happy with it. My emotions are much stronger and emotions on others make much more sense now. Its not like it "healed" my autism but its an interesting effect.

I posted this into an autism facebook group with parents and guess what I got as a response...

"How did you stop your testosterone? I ask because it might help my son"

Seriously, she just said she would chemically castrate her son because of autism. Some people would do any "treatment" because of autism...

Castration will not cure autism, all this is BS. It's like circumcision who was supposed to cure or prevent over 50 diseases in the passed century, this too, was only BS. This poor guy will have no say for this treatment and this will make his condition even worse. Autism is caused by poor nutrition. Just like many other neurological diseases, poor guts condition mainly caused by gluten, which has rendered the intestine permeable, also known as "leaky gut syndrome". This can be reversed or improved by stopping the consumption of all cereals (flour included), dairy products, and sugar, the "Paleo diet" rules. Adding glutamine (an amino acid) to his diet will help rebuild his intestinal wall. Within 2-3 months there should be a great improvement in his condition. All this informations can be verified on the web, on YouTube there are plenty of informations regarding autism. Naturopaths will give the best advices, physicians don't know everything.

paring (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:47 am Autism is caused by poor nutrition. Just like many other neurological diseases, poor guts condition mainly caused by gluten, which has rendered the intestine permeable, also known as "leaky gut syndrome". This can be reversed or improved by stopping the consumption of all cereals (flour included), dairy products, and sugar, the "Paleo diet" rules. Adding glutamine (an amino acid) to his diet will help rebuild his intestinal wall. Within 2-3 months there should be a great improvement in his condition. All this informations can be verified on the web, on YouTube there are plenty of informations regarding autism. Naturopaths will give the best advices, physicians don't know everything.

There is no cure for autism.

There is a way to improved this condition, a new book was recently published on it. If you believe there is no cure. Well tell that mother to go ahead with her son's castration but tell her also this is not a cure either.

You two need to argue this in PM or email.

paring (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:47 am Castration will not cure autism, all this is BS. It's like circumcision who was supposed to cure or prevent over 50 diseases in the passed century, this too, was only BS. This poor guy will have no say for this treatment and this will make his condition even worse. Autism is caused by poor nutrition. Just like many other neurological diseases, poor guts condition mainly caused by gluten, which has rendered the intestine permeable, also known as "leaky gut syndrome". This can be reversed or improved by stopping the consumption of all cereals (flour included), dairy products, and sugar, the "Paleo diet" rules. Adding glutamine (an amino acid) to his diet will help rebuild his intestinal wall. Within 2-3 months there should be a great improvement in his condition. All this informations can be verified on the web, on YouTube there are plenty of informations regarding autism. Naturopaths will give the best advices, physicians don't know everything.

I have celiac. I used to think I had a dairy allergy, but I was tested for it, and nada. Stopping the wheat stopped leaky guts, and milk no longer messes me up.

Also, there's no evidence to suggest that autism is caused by malnutrition. If it was, we'd see all kinds of autism diagnoses in and around wars, and in the shittier parts of Africa where systematic malnutrition is present. The consistent lack of autism epidemics in these cases provides strong evidence that it's not malnutrition that's the cause, but we should fall back to our null hypothesis - that of a strong genetic component. It's most likely a polycistronic trait, with a dose-dependent effect - multiple genes contribute to autism-spectrum traits, and the number you have determines your risk and the severity of the syndrome.

My 2¢. Please cc me into the PM discussion or let me know where this discussion is continued.

There is no pn discussion. There is no point in one.

I spoke to the mother and i think her son is safe.

aspie_nico (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:46 am I am kind of shocked! To the background:

I am on triptorelin because I am agender and I have problems with my sexuality. My testosterone level is almost zero now and I am very happy with it. My emotions are much stronger and emotions on others make much more sense now. Its not like it “healed” my autism but its an interesting effect.

I posted this into an autism facebook group with parents and guess what I got as a response…

“How did you stop your testosterone? I ask because it might help my son”

Seriously, she just said she would chemically castrate her son because of autism. Some people would do any

“treatment” because of autism…

I’m no longer convinced she was talking out her ass, merely citing junk science - on a completely unrelated internet search, I stumbled upon this gem. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuprorel ... rotocol.22) You may wish to provide this as further evidence, lest lingering doubts cause that mother to revisit the issue later.

Junk science will float around until repudiated, so you may want to repudiate it. Exposure to one source may or may not be enough - but in truth, it rarely is, due to confirmation bias. However, I’ve found a second source (http://researchautism.net/testosterone- ... and-autism) and this is what they have to say on the subject:

Leuprolide is a very strong drug, designed to change the hormonal balance in men and women. Used on children or adolescents, it could cause disastrous and irreversible damage to sexual functioning.

It is also very expensive, with some providers charging between �125 and �1,000 - or $250 and $2,000 - per injection.

There is no scientifically valid or reliable research evidence to suggest that Leuprolide is effective in reducing any of the problem behaviours associated with autism.

For all of these reasons we believe that Leuprolide should not be used to treat individuals with autism, unless and only if it is used to treat disorders, such as prostate cancer, for which it was designed.

(f%$#ing antivaxxers…)

Edit: Interesting article on gut flora and autism - crucially, they found a molecular mechanism: a chemical called 4-ethylphenylsulphate, or 4EPS, which seems to be produced by gut bacteria. (http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi ... in/395918/)

Mazmanian, who in 2012 was awarded a MacArthur grant for his microbiome work, sees this as a “potential breakthrough” in understanding how microbes contribute to autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. He says the results so far suggest that adjusting gut bacteria could be a viable treatment for the disease, at least in some patients. “We may be able to reverse these ailments,” he says. “If you turn off the faucet that produces this compound, then the symptoms disappear. That’s what we see in the mouse model.”

There was a news story cited here about this topic about five years ago:

http://forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php ... istic-boys

Sometimes I wonder where common sense went. Let's approach this logically. I know, that's a stretch for Mr & Mrs John Q Public these days, but...

All fantasies aside, OK ... where's the research on T level tests of said boys?

Can we test some of the other neighborhood boys who aren't autistic, for a comparison? Of course, pay them for their trouble.

Once teenage boys discover their genitals, that's pretty much it, folks. Deal with it.

If we must whack you over the head with a Bible, God created man in His own image.

How about trying to teach your son that playing with it, or talking dirty in public, is not a good idea? Even my 7 year old "Grand"son understands that one does not play with it on the pitcher's mound. You wait until you get home in your room to do that. Then again, not every parent understands the composition, functioning, and purpose of the male genitals.

And thousands of dollars per shot? What planet did you come from? You're willing to dump that kind cash each month, because your Special Needs boy "has a dirty mind"?

I don't know if I'm more bothered by the fact that one mother asks this about a boy of unspecified age, or that Society at large seems to be so full of prudes!

Well, now that I've got that out of my system!

The more I think about it, the more this sounds like a troll or fantasy player. For all we know, this "mother" is probably a 50 year old man in a trailer park in Nebraska.

Sadly, autism remains quite the mystery. There's plenty of stuff to read about it, but sorting out the junk science from honest testimonies of what works for someone else is going to be hard to do. I think we can all agree, however, that something like castration belongs in an EA fiction story.

Paolo wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:17 am The more I think about it, the more this sounds like a troll or fantasy player. For all we know, this "mother" is probably a 50 year old man in a trailer park in Nebraska.

Well she had pretty convincing phtotos of herself and her son on her facebook profile. Didnt look fake to me... I just think she didnt think this through.