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I am not sure how to put it and what I think beyond the "WTF?" and few unprintable things, I'll just drop a link:

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/russia ... oming-out/

To clarify - no it is not a law, it will be voted upon soonish. But still. May be, after I calm down, I'll make a more reasonable comment.

😠:(:-\

Russia has become one of the world's largest anti-LGBT nations in recent years, passing laws banning "gay propaganda (http://www.dailydot.com/politics/russia ... uth-guard/)," squelching pride parades, and showcasing jaw-droppingly low levels of public support—with 74 percent (http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/06/04/the ... sexuality/) of Russian citizens surveyed saying that "society should not accept homosexuality."

But next week, Russia (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/russia/) could take state-sponsored homophobia to new levels when its parliament votes on a strict new law.

The State Duma is slated to decide on the law on Tuesday, Jan. 19, according to Russian news site Rusnovosti.ru (http://rusnovosti.ru/). According to the report, the bill—first introduced in October—will impose jail time and fines for anyone who comes out as LGBT, men who display public affection in public, and even for merely showing public support for LGBT (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/lgbt/) rights.

When the MP's first introduced the bill in October, Nikitchuk published a blog post (http://kprf.ru/dep/gosduma/activities/147926.html) on the Communist party site calling homosexuality "a deadly threat to all humanity."

И.И. Никитчук: "Вопреки природе..." https://t.co/KSDQMahph4

— Иван Никитчук (@ivan194444) October 31, 2015 (https://twitter.com/ivan194444/status/6 ... 9591375872)

"We have our own idea of honor and conscience, and we must respect tradition," said the bill's communist co-author Ivan Nikitchuk, according to a translation provided by Gay Star News (http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/russ ... gs.D4jrHeQ). "The scum that comes to us from the West is unnatural to Russia."These unconventional sexual desires do nothing but disgust normal, smart, healthy people. It is sick that disgusting people feel they should be treated the same," Nikitchuk continued.

The new law, if voted in, would fine Russian citizens 5,000 rubles and send them to jail for up to 15 days for things like signing a gay rights petition, stating online that they are LGBT (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/lgbt/), or holding hands with another man on the street.

Oddly, the public affection portion of the bill applies only to men—women can still kiss in public, because according to the legislators they are more "reasonable" and able to "manage their emotions."

"We do not prohibit that these people do what they do. But let them do it under a blanket or under the bed. But let them not demonstrate to the public their sympathies and aspirations," said Nikitchuk, according to Gayrussia.eu (http://http//www.gayrussia.eu/russia/12 ... ls.twitter).

Along with the bill's co-sponsor, Nikolai Arefyev, Nikitchuk is presenting the proposed law because he feels the current ban on gay propaganda isn't strong enough (http://europe.newsweek.com/russian-lgbt ... ion-335327).

That ban, a 2013 law banning "the promotion of non-traditional sexual relationships" with fines up to 1 million rubles, passed with a nearly unanimous vote in the State Duma—of 436 lawmakers present, only one abstained and no one voted against it.

Because of the ease with which the gay propaganda law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_L ... aganda_law) passed, Nikitchuk predicted (http://www.gayrussia.eu/russia/12577/#. ... ls.twitter) that the coming-out ban would fly through the Duma as well.

"I do not think that the MPs dare to express their explicit support for homosexuals," Nikitchuk said.
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And the insanity just continues.
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That country grows more sickening by the day. It's actually the 21'st century's Segregation. In a state riddle with corruption and mob controlled Government, LGBT people are a convenient way of distracting the masses. Just when we thought the world had left the dark age!
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This probably would not pass. The issue is - how this even ended up as a proposal?
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It was not even a law proposal. It was just an opinion of one very old and clinically insane communist fraction member. What he proposed actually is ban of _public media out-of-the-closet of celebrities_ and not some additional repressions for every gay. Funny he is also _only_ against gay, and not against lesbians (he underlined that).
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ktgktgktg (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:24 am It was not even a law proposal. It was just an opinion of one very old and clinically insane communist fraction member. What he proposed actually is ban of _public media out-of-the-closet of celebrities_ and not some additional repressions for every gay. Funny he is also _only_ against gay, and not against lesbians (he underlined that).

Nope, it is a proposal: http://asozd2.duma.gov.ru/main.nsf/%28S ... N=916716-6

Unfortunately. And no, the text reads:

следующие изменения:

1) дополнить Главу 6

«Административные правонарушения, посягающие на здоровье, санитарно-эпидемиологическое благополучие населения и общественную нравственность»

статьей 6.12.1

«Публичное выражение нетрадиционных сексуальных отношений»

следующего

содержания:

1. Публичное выражение нетрадиционных сексуальных отношений, заключающееся в публичной

демонстрации своих искаженных сексуальных предпочтений в общественных местах, если эти

действия не содержат уголовно наказуемого деяния, -влечет наложение штрафа на граждан

в размере от четырех до пяти тысяч рублей;

2. Действия, предусмотренные частью 1 настоящей статьи, совершенные на территориях и в помещениях,

предназначенных для оказания образовательных услуг, услуг учреждениями культуры и учреждениями органов

по делам молодежи, если эти действия не содержат уголовно наказуемого деяния, -влекут наложение административного

штрафа в размере от четырех тысяч до пяти тысяч рублей или административный арест на срок до пятнадцати суток.

It is yours to translate. But in short:

1. public expression of non traditional sexual relationships, which consists in public demonstration of their distorted sexual preferences in public places, if these actions do not contain a criminal offense, leads to fine of four to five thousand rubles;

2. Actions envisaged in part 1 of this article, committed on the territory and premises, intended for the provision of educational services, cultural institutions and youth organizations, if these actions do not contain a criminal offense, lead to fine of four thousand to five thousand rubles or administrative arrest for up to fifteen days.
ktgktgktg (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:24 am Funny he is also _only_ against gay, and not against lesbians (he underlined that).

Typical male, what can I say.
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