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In terms of sex....
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 2:48 pm
by Neoscrow (imported)
Now HERE's an interesting question posed to me by one of my unenlightened gal-friends.
(I keep trying to tell them to come to this site. They're all still chicken. But don't worry guys. For those interested, I am actively trying to bring the female calvary LOL. Give me time, educating them isn't all that easy - as you all probably know.)
Anyhow:
We all know about the male g-spot. Right?
Does the prostate still respond to stimulation after the testicles have been removed? (blinks, shrugs, stammers)
This question came up in a conversation with one of my girlfriends who suspects her boyfriend is being unfaithful. I was telling her about prostate milking and then we started talking about eunuchs and so on and so forth - hence the question.
Any takers on this?
And if a eunuch is able to achieve orgasm - don't mean to be graphic here - but what could one expect? Also, is a eunuch orgasm any less "exciting" for the male? See, she wants him to be faithful, but she still wants "him" too. And being he's a brute and your typical "man's man", I doubt he'd even go for it. He won't, but she's damned determined. Personally, I think she's stupid for staying with him anyway.
For the education and sanity of the unknowing female population - someone please clue us in.
LOL
Also, if you read anything soon in the Detroit news about an unsuspecting guy getting you know what by his girlfriend, I had NOTHING to do with it! LOL
Nuthin' but love for ya,
Lysette
Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 3:24 pm
by Losethem (imported)
Neoscrow---
I cannot speak in terms of what it is like for a eunuch, but I do know that I can get very intense orgasms from prostate stimulation. I have even been able to ejaculate as the passive partner while having sex with my boyfriend and without touching my penis.
So it is possible to have orgasms from prostate stimulation. I'd guess it is possible for eunuchs, but since I am not one, I cannot answer that part of your question.
Anyone else care to try?

Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 3:34 pm
by SplitDik (imported)
Here is my understanding:
Castration generally reduces libido. For some eunuchs that means elimination of sexual interest, sometimes to the point where erection and ejaculation are pretty much impossible, no matter what you are stimulating.
However, some eunuchs are still interested in some sex and claim that orgasms can still be intense. However, I am pretty sure that their erections are less frequent, less strong, and that they require more stimulation than they would have previously. Furthermore, their orgasms do not result in much ejaculation.
Typically ejaculate is a combination of sperm (from the testicles) and seminal fluid (from the prostate). A eunuch of course will only have seminal fluid. However, testosterone is the main hormone controlling the prostate's production of seminal fluid. Therefore, for eunuchs there is much less ejaculate (no sperm and little seminal fluid).
Since the prostate is less active without testosterone, it shrinks in size. Without being so full, direct stimulation may be less effective.
Furthermore, if anal sex was not pleasurable for the man before being a eunuch it is definitely not likely to become so.
So, my humble opinion is that, even if someone was able to orgasm solely from prostate stimulation before castration, they are probably going to either be less into sex in general or their prostate changes will reduce the pleasure.
Said in reverse, prostate stimulation is most pleasurable for gay (or bisexual) guys with raging libidos and full prostate glands. A hetero, castrated guy with shrunken prostate is much less likely to be excited about it.
Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 6:46 pm
by JesusA (imported)
This is clearly a case of "your mileage will vary." Certainly boys get plenty of erections before puberty. My daughter has presented me with an ultrasound showing my grandson-to-be with an erection. My son certainly had them often enough when he was still in diapers.
It has been well reported in various posts on the Archive (mostly on the nonfiction board) that wealthy Roman matrons were in the habit of chosing especially attractive slave boys in their late teens and having them castrated to provide more pleasure in bed than an intact male. No fear of pregnancy was an important part of it, but the ability to maintain an erection for far longer than most males was also important.
Sir Richard Burton, in the footnotes to his translation of the Thousand and One Nights, comments on his own field research into the matter. He notes that many Arabian eunuchs who had been castrated after puberty entertained several wives. He also, from personal experience, notes that their erect penises got only as stiff as a stiff rubber tube. He claims that they were able to retain the ability late into life.
There is ambiguous reporting on Italian castrati, castrated well before puberty. Apparently some of them were impotent, but others were sought out by female fans for more than just autographs. The Catholic Church did not allow their marriage since marriage is "only" to produce legitimate children. (Cardinal Sin - my favorite name of all time - of the Philippines has even stated that men with vasectomies or women with tubal ligations cannot have legitimate sexual relations because conception is not a possibility!!! It's not just condoms that the church condemns.)
You can't count on any particular result. The range ought to be very wide. I'm sure that respondents to your question here will cover the entire range.
Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 9:35 am
by SplitDik (imported)
Regarding the lore about eunuchs satisfying women in bed, I think that we really don't know much about what they may have been doing in bed -- oral sex? cuddling for hours? I somehow doubt they had lasting, rock-hard erections.
Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 11:30 am
by DavidS (imported)
Since I had most of my cock removed I haven't had any form or erection or ejaculation in many years. When I am with a partner I gain all of my enjoyment from giving pleasure. I love oral sex and manual stimulation, as well as endless kissing and embraces. Holding a woman tight against me.
Since I still have balls, and full testosterone, my libido is intact, so I cannot say that if, or when, I do get castrated, is I will still have the enthusiasm and desire to give pelasure as I now do.
David
Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 11:56 am
by Charlieje (imported)
I would have answered this question differently four days ago.
Last night, and the night before, I had spontaneous and very hard erections. I have no eartly idea why, but they were HARD! That is the first time in over a year and a half that I have had ANY spontaneous erection at all. I have always been able to work to get one, but until these last 3 days they have never been spontaneous.
As Robby so eloquently put it, "Just to keep this in perspective, eunuchs are not sexual beings. Without the normal flow of testosterone in their blood stream, sex is not high on the list for most eunuchs, if not at all. Human males are meant to have the testosterone hormone flowing in their blood stream for normal biological function. Eunuchs do not experience normal biological functions... when off the hormone. "
I agree completely with Robby's comment. When I got those rare erections, there was no urgency, no "need" to satisfy them. I did once, but it was more out of curiosity to see what would happen than out of any need. What happened was a very satisfying, although much less intense orgasm. There was some emission, but very, very little.
As for prostate stimulation, I'm afraid I cannot comment. As nearly as I can recall, I have never tried to stimulate my prostate since becoming a eunuch in 1997.
But again, to quote Jesus, "Your mileage will vary." I have learned that eunuchism is one of the most unpredictable and variable states a human can possess.

Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 1:18 pm
by DavidS (imported)
Since my surgery I have not had the ability to ejaculate, but will, every so often, have an emmission. My sperm is, of course, no different than it was before, but in the emision I get very little sensation. Just an oozing.
While several partners and I have talked about it over the years, I have never had my prostate massaged to see if the effect would bring on any sort of pleasurable response.
David
Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:39 pm
by happousai (imported)
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DavidS (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2002 11:30 am
Since I had most of my cock removed I haven't had any
> form or erection or ejaculation in many years.
Welcome to the forum, DavidS. I don't think I've seen you here before.
If I may ask, how did you get most of your penis removed, and why?
Re: In terms of sex....
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 3:05 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
Robby, Charlie and Jesus are right on. I have been chemically castrated for a year. My Testosterone count as of last March was 35, that is eunuch status. I have had spontaneous erections one right here talking to another member, like to scared the hell out of me. It is true without testosterone you dont have a sex drive so sex is really not important. Its not that I dont like it, I just dont think about it like a normal male, which is all day and night. I was castrated 9/6 14 days ago and today I got an erection, first one sense castration. Again not sure what I was going to do with it and it went away.
The last time I ejaculated, my penis was not as hard as it once was, its more spongy and not rock hard, I still feel the build up to climax but when a male shoots part of that climax feeling is shooting the load. A eunuch or at least this eunuch still reaches that point just as I am about to shoot and its over. Climaxes are dry for the most part or maybe a drop of clear liquid, but then I hit that point - its over. So yes climaxes are different for me, I think most eunuchs experience much the same thing.
I is not that I dont like sex, I do and I am looking for a partner, I know sex will be different and there is nothing wrong with that. I hope your questions are answered by this group of eunuchs.