This is an oldy but a goody. Some have said it is fake, but I'm pretty sure it is a vid made by Dr. Ronald Brown. If you don't know who Dr. Ronald Brown is: http://dallasdenny.com/Writing/2013/11/ ... rown-2002/

Anyway, graphic vid (NSFW of course): http://theync.com/bizarre/22029-penis.htm

This video clip originates from the 1982 film First Transmission, The Temple of Psychic Youth by Genesis P. Orridge.

It's essentially a plotless sex and gore fest, best known for being a readily available "snuff film" (allegedly) when, in another segment, a young man dies while having some kind of electrical stimulator implanted into his spine. Much controversy exists as to whether these events are staged, with the penectomy being one of them.

Personally, I think it's fake - as we've discussed before.

No, the film isn't worth watching.

I've seen this video for the first time 3 years ago on an other gore site under the title "Circimcision gone wrong" . This looks more like an underground cutter than a surgeon job. This looks real though, it was probably filmed with an old super 8 camera, which makes it difficult to cheat . I've seen penectomy done by cutter that was safer than this "doctor".

As I said the last time this debate was had here, if you cut a penis straight off as depicted in the film it doesn't spurt blood like it does here, it might bleed profusely, but you're not going to "ejaculate" blood. That's why I call it fake.

As I thought when I first studied it, it looks like he does a scene cut to put a fake one in the shot. The young man always seems to have his thumb over it, and the "scrotum" could be housing a blood pump, as there is a hand on it. I watched it yet again, and I still call fake.

I am not sure if this clip is fake but it does not convince me that it is likely to be authentic. There are just too many unexplained anomalies for my comfort. --FLO--

I believe it is real for a couple reasons. First of all, it matches exactly what Dr. Ronald Brown was doing at that time. Here is a description of what he was doing (

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:17 pm http://dallasdenny.com/Writing/2013/11/ ... rown-2002/

): "Among transsexuals he was known as “Table Top Brown” for his willingness to operate on kitchen tables (which sometimes collapsed), as well as in garages and motel rooms. In The Tijuana Experience, Denny wrote: “Some of these people, expecting vaginoplasties, received simple penectomies, leaving them looking somewhat like a Barbie doll."

And the timeframe matches (from wikipedia): "During the 1980s Brown began soliciting and advertising surgical services in the USA.[8] whilst performing the surgical procedures in Mexico."

Furthermore, you need to look at the psychology and typical approach of someone making a fake movie and the difficulty in making any staged movie look truly impromptu. Someone who would fake such a movie would, in my opinion, focus on different things. They usually have some fetish motivation and so would do the penectomy either in a sexualized or a torture scene scenario. There is no "last cum", no look of either pleasure, pain or fear, etc. A person with the fetish would usually like to see more detail, like seeing the severed penis closely. There is usually multiple camera angles. I just don't see why someone would go about making a fake video in the manner of this video.

The focus on the urination for example, seems more to me like a medical interest. Brown stylized himself as a pioneer in gender surgery so I could see him recording that to prove some point about his technique.

Anyway, I'm saying that Brown is known to have done hundreds of penectomies in motels in Mexico during the early 1980s. If there was any video of his work, I'm pretty sure this vid would be what it would look like. I think the young man's behavior is consistent with either a transsexual who was hoping for a more female result than the stub he got, or consistent with some poor Mexican kid who really needed the money and got ensnared by Brown to practice his work on.

Not saying it is impossible to fake. Just saying that it isn't to me consistent with the way someone would choose to fake a penectomy vid, but is very consistent with Brown's work.

I looked at the evidence as presented, especially for the First Transmission video. As someone who has sat in on several surgeries on other people as a medical professional, I can tell you that what I see in the video is implausible at best. The body simply doesn't spurt blood like that in anything but the movies.

--LT

Losethem (imported) wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:42 pm I looked at the evidence as presented, especially for the First Transmission video. As someone who has sat in on several surgeries on other people as a medical professional, I can tell you that what I see in the video is implausible at best. The body simply doesn't spurt blood like that in anything but the movies.

--LT

Actually that's not true. I've had blood splurting out of my penis over 3 feet. Just like a horror movie. It was big splurt in an arc with each heartbeat. I almost fainted. Once was when I stuck a needle through the head of my penis. Second time was when I used diagonal cutters to make first snip of a sub incision. Of course in both cases I was erect. But I guarantee you you can have blood shoot halfway across a room with even a minor cut on an erect penis.

On the other hand when I've been flaccid and had body mods done to the penis I've always been surprised how little blood there was. Basically the blood flow to the penis can of course vary dramatically based on appeal level. A flaccid penis had the least amount of blood flow of any body part.

Anyway I'm not saying it is definitely real. Just that it is very consistent with Dr Brown and seems inconsistent with how someone would fake it.

But you're infinitely more qualified to discuss what a real penectomy would look like. Still wanted to put this vid out there cause it is certainly interesting.

OK fine, have it your way. Don't trust the licensed professional about anything.

--LT