Hi alltogether,

although I am new to this forum and this is my first post I have been reading here already for quite a few years.

I am a 42 year old Western Europe Male and – as I know here are some folks who have years of experience with castration and hormones - would like to get some advice.

So here is my story so far:

Some ten years ago I have been experimenting and out of curiosity taken Estrogen for 2 months. I liked the feeling of the nipples, but as I had no intention of transitioning and fear to end up as a man with tits (at that time looking for a job and girlfriend) I stopped. What I had experienced was nipple tenderness and it was harder to achieve an erection and orgasm.

After I stopped I met my now wife and everything went back to normal, I just did not seem to have the same high desire, but nothing to worry.

Three years later for other medical reasons I was pumped full of the hormone prostaglandin for a few weeks – whereby I do not know if this has any relevance with the further development.

In the following years I noticed a gradual decrease in libido, which I did not mind, as my wife was two times pregnant in this period and sex was not in her mind anyway that much.

Now four years ago in the course of a routine check they also did hormone state and they found my testosterone was very low (1,7 where the normal male range would be 2.41-8.30 and SHBG 17.2 (normal 16-76)). Though the endocrinolist told me I might see a urologist she saw no further need for action on her side.

To be honest I did not see a urologist till now. I told my wife the outcome of the check and that I have low testosterone – so she knows and she knows that this is why I have a low sex drive. We once discussed if I should go to see an urologist, I told her I had fear of prostate complications as my father had prostate cancer if they would prescribe testosterone and she did not push me any more.

We do not have that much sex nowadays and she plays with my nipples, which are very sensitive. My erections are weak and she has to be on top so my penis does stay in – I can come though if she plays with my nipples and I play with her clitoris to satisfy her needs.

I am quite content with the situation sexually as I am rather calm, have no big need and we do not argue and fight that much any more as we did when I supposedly had more testosterone. Fertility is no issue for me as we already have two children.

However – although due to having not much time – I did not care and read a lot about the matter.

Over the time I have gained a lot of weight (15-20 kg) especially in the belly area, had problems sleeping, lot of sweat which seem to be symptoms of low testosterone.

I now have done a lot of reading – also here in the forum – and I now think, that doing nothing might not be the best, as all these symptoms are not nice to have and there is a risk of Osteoporose.

So what should I do now?

If I go and see an urologist he might prescribe testosterone. However I would not like to have that sexual need any more to fuck any woman around (it’s also cheaper as my hunting colleagues pay for prostitutes on hunting excursions while I go to sleep )

Thanks for your thoughts and input

Joe

transjoe (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:17 am Hi alltogether,

although I am new to this forum and this is my first post I have been reading here already for quite a few years.

I am a 42 year old Western Europe Male and – as I know here are some folks who have years of experience with castration and hormones - would like to get some advice.

So here is my story so far:

Some ten years ago I have been experimenting and out of curiosity taken Estrogen for 2 months.

Clip....

Joe

I my self did take some birth control pills for less than a month, and I did suffer a testicle shut down about 20 years latter (it was helped along with alcohol injection and HTR).

But you have to lose the weight you gained, that will help with your sleeping!

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Or use Progesteron (natural!) cream, you can sleep like a baby.

But if you use too much you can sweat at night (generally not bad but uncomfortable).

Its generally good for the mans health. ... ah, and also positive for easier losing any weight especially around the belly.

CastratedTomcat (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:22 pm Or use Progesteron (natural!) cream, you can sleep like a baby.

But if you use too much you can sweat at night (generally not bad but uncomfortable).

Its generally good for the mans health. ... ah, and also positive for easier losing any weight especially around the belly.

Hi - Sounds interesting. I just did a Google recherche and found articles stating that Progesteron should indeed be good for the health of males to, though it seems to be a female Hormone. Does Progesteron also prevent from osteoporosis?

Hi alltogether - I thought I might test my testosterone as the test mentioned above is already some years ago. I found this test http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0073Q5 ... ge_o00_s00 where you can ship in your saliva and get test results.

Has anybody experience with this test as it does not need any blood but only saliva? I don't know how accurate this is but I will give it a try.

Best wishes

If you have had low testosterone for a long time, it is advisable to have a dexxa bone scan and check the status of your bone health.

You will need to either take testosterone or estrogen to maintain healthy bones.

losing weight looking at diet and impact exercise will all help.

I started this thread to look at bone health:

http://forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php ... nd-Eunuchs

As for libido, you should talk to your wife about whether you should be taking T or E. If you are happy with the way things are then E may work for you both.

Hello Folks,

got an update - just got my actual testosterone test results back from the lab (thought I would do a new check before thinking about what to do so far):

Testosterone is 29 pg/ml where the range for a male my age would be 30 - 98 according to the lab - so again - after the period from the last test - I got a very low T Level tested! As I am not taking any anti-androgens or else at the Moment this seems to be a hypogonadism.

So what should I do now - go and see an urologist?

As mentioned above I like the low T, however I am concerned of negative Long term effects possible on low T.

Joe

Yes, go to an expert ... urologist or better endocrinologist!

Hi,

I just noticed that the lab did also recommend a dose of 50mg Testosteron trough Testogel per day. However I would not be able to get Testogel with this recommendation as it is just a lab and not a Physicians prescription, though based on the lab a Physician would presumably prescribe the Testosteron.

Do you guys think the value as stated above to be very low?

Would it be possible - as JCat suggested - to get a very low dose of Estrogen instead? Also i doubt I would get a prescription from a physician for Estrogen.

I however do not want to Transition and never had tried to Dress or use make-up etc., I do look very manly with beard etc. and would not like to change this. I would not mind a Little amount of breast development as long as I can hide it or just put it away as overweight.

Hi,

so I have now started natural progesterone cream in a dose of ca 15 mg progesterone daily as I have read a lot and also that it is also useful for men and should have no feminising effect. Thanks for the tip so far - however I have also read it should also have an anti-estrogen effect reducing the the effect of estrogen and I like my sensible nipples from my obviously natural higher estrogen Level, so I might Need to add estrogen soon (lol

Had no time till now, but before adding anything else I will definitely get a check through an urologist/endocrinologist.

Joe