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Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:05 pm
by Dave (imported)
Somedays, the news haunts me.

Just please don't ask me to explain this. It's way too weird.

Experiment confirms quantum theory weirdness -- ScienceDaily

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 103110.htm

Physicists at The Australian National University (ANU) have conducted John Wheeler's delayed-choice thought experiment, which involves a moving object that is given the choice to act like a particle or a wave. Wheeler's experiment then asks -- at which point does the object decide?

Common sense says the object is either wave-like or particle-like, independent of how we measure it. But quantum physics predicts that whether you observe wave like behavior (interference) or particle behavior (no interference) depends only on how it is actually measured at the end of its journey. This is exactly what the ANU team found.

"It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you are not looking at it," said Associate Professor Andrew Truscott from the ANU Research School of Physics and Engineering.

Despite the apparent weirdness, the results confirm the validity of quantum theory, which governs the world of the very small, and has enabled the development of many technologies such as LEDs, lasers and computer chips.

The ANU team not only succeeded in building the experiment, which seemed nearly impossible when it was proposed in 1978, but reversed Wheeler's original concept of light beams being bounced by mirrors, and instead used atoms scattered by laser light.

"Quantum physics predictions about interference seem odd enough when applied to light, which seems more like a wave, but to have done the experiment with atoms, which are complicated things that have mass and interact with electric fields and so on, adds to the weirdness," said PhD student Roman Khakimov.

Professor Truscott's team first trapped a collection of helium atoms in a suspended state known as a Bose-Einstein condensate, and then ejected them until there was only a single atom left.

The single atom was then dropped through a pair of counter-propagating laser beams, which formed a grating pattern that acted as crossroads in the same way a solid grating would scatter light.

A second light grating to recombine the paths was randomly added, which led to constructive or destructive interference as if the atom had travelled both paths. When the second light grating was not added, no interference was observed as if the atom chose only one path.

However, the random number determining whether the grating was added was only generated after the atom had passed through the crossroads.

If one chooses to believe that the atom really did take a particular path or paths then one has to accept that a future measurement is affecting the atom's past, said Truscott.

"The atoms did not travel from A to B. It was only when they were measured at the end of the journey that their wave-like or particle-like behavior was brought into existence," he said.

The above story is based on materials provided by Australian National University. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length.

Re: Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:20 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
That is an easy question Dave, he does the hokey pokey turns himself around and .......... well you get the idea.

I am in a very strange mood today, wonder if the moon is waxing or what.

Re: Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:41 pm
by Dave (imported)
Tonight is the first quarter of the moon. Next full moon is a week away.

It took me a couple hours of thinking to figure out what the experiment did.

AND I GOT IT! YAAAAAY!

It's truly weird, deeply strange in the way that only Quantum Mechanics can be . . .

Re: Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:48 pm
by Losethem (imported)
My observation is you're weird, Dave. ;)

Re: Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:13 pm
by Dave (imported)
Not any more weird than any other person. However, I do admit it openly.

Re: Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:30 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
Speaking of weird, and without trying to be political, has anybody been following the FIFI world soccer arrests all over the world? Best story in the news this week.

River

Re: Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:09 pm
by Losethem (imported)
Other than the fact I know what FIFA is because of my job, I really don't care. Let 'em be corrupt as hell, it's just a stupid game that I have no intention of spending a dime on.

--LT

Re: Speaking of weird, completely weird, totally weird, and yet

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:36 pm
by eunuch2001 (imported)
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Losethem (imported) wrote: Fri May 29, 2015 8:09 pm it's just a stupid game that I have no intention of spending a dime on.

--LT

That's the most sensible comment on FIFA that I have read this week.