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Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:56 am
by jcat (imported)
I have been thinking about it for some time and yesterday I injected .70ml of my Polish 96.5% Vodka into my left spermatic cord. Thinking that if I can disrupt the blood supply to the testicle it will finally die.
I was very careful to push the syringe in sideways and drawback to make sure I had not hit the artery/vein. Much to my surprise it barely hurt, it did sting a fair bit for a few minutes, ached for a while and today I feel fine.
It swelled up to about an inch thick and today is about half that.
It remains to be seen what damage occurs as it heals.
Next time I may go for calcium chloride.
All I have read says Vas injections hurt like hell....not for me!
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:19 am
by jcat (imported)
Indeed I have been thinking about this for a long time:
http://forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php ... s-deferens
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:32 am
by jcat (imported)
2 Days later the cord is still swollen, maybe 3 times as thick as normal, no pain, no obvious side effects. However, the testicle is also swollen from the injection and I think therefore that the liquid travels downwards into the testicle, which is interesting in the research about injecting the Vas with alcohol and calcium chloride where sterilisation and testicular atrophy were observed. Whether this is castration or not is a little confusing and useless in my case as I have injected the testicle itself many times. But there is no doubt that my epididymus is very swollen and so is the testicle. When I have recovered I will do an injection with calcium chloride to try and feel by the pain how far the liquid travels, it was very easy to inject into the vas, far easier than into the the testicle with far less pain.
If the substance is pushed throughout the testicle it may well be that this is an easier , if trickier method of injecting. Controversial? There is only one way to find out!
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:47 am
by jcat (imported)
Today I injected .80ml of a mixture of alcohol and calcium chloride into the same left vas deferens. It went it very easily and there was no pain aaprt from a mild stinging sensation. A couple of hours later I could feel a mild irritation, not exactly burning but something like that, and now the epididymus is swollen and flat so I reckon I have destroyed or collapsed the epididymal tubes.
I can see why it is used for sterilisation, there will be nowhere to store sperm.
I have a dull ache....but I have had those for years anyway and it may not be this at all.
Virtually no pain. Bear in mind my testicles are petty mashed up from previous injections with a T level of about 46.
My curiosity wonders whether clamping the chord above the injection site and injecting 2-3cc of calcium chloride to an an undamaged testicle what the outcome would be. Unfortunately that will not be me!
Judging by the lack of response to these posts, there is either complete dis-interest or you all think I am mad, or maybe both. I am an obsessive compulsive I admit!
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:21 am
by YodaNell (imported)
Actually, I can't wait to read more of your current experience. Please do not stop updating us. I would like to know the outcome (effectiveness) of vas deferens CCl injection. You've had over 200 views...at least.
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:31 am
by jcat (imported)
YodaNell (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:21 am
Actually, I can't wait to read more of your current experience. Please do not stop updating us. I would like to know the outcome (effectiveness) of vas deferens CCl injection. You've had over 200 views...at least.
Hi Yoda, Thank you, I was feeling kinda lonely in this thread! Well, I have just done a check and the cord is till swollen and seems shorter, it is tender when I apply pressure, but not painful. I live with so much pain from chronic epididymo orchitis that it seems very mild and I am also on constant Naproxen and Tramadol, so my pain measurement may not be accurate! I have other health issues that cause me pain and nothing to do with my testicular journey!.
The epididymus is definitely flatter. We shall see how it looks tomorrow (It is 18:27 here)
I do think that there may be a possibility that injecting in this way may be a simpler less painful route. From the research it definitely talks of sterilisation and atrophy, the problem is that they are not consistent in the usage of 'sterilisation' and 'castration' and seem to use the words interchangeably.
I will keep the thread updated. It will probably take some days-weeks for the swelling to go down and the real effects to be seen.
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:44 am
by GenChick (imported)
I am following this post Jcat and interested in outcome, but if urologist postpones my orchiectomy again, I will inject my testicles for the forth time with calcium chloride (I do not mix it with alcohol). I wont do it in Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord.
What I noticed, that when I did injection in to testicles for the first time the swelling were huge, when I repeated injection after 1 month swelling were much less. Maybe the same applies to Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injection?
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:11 pm
by GenChick (imported)
jcat (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:47 am
My curiosity wonders whether clamping the chord above the injection site and injecting 2-3cc of calcium chloride to an an undamaged testicle what the outcome would be.
Why do you think that clamping the cord and injecting would be any different then simple injection? The calcium chloride burns on contact; I don’t think it would travel down to your testicle…
On my third injection I did not used hair scrunchie to stop blood flow to my testicles and found that it is much easier to hold my testicle with one hand and injecting with another.
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:02 pm
by jcat (imported)
GenChick (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:44 am
I am following this post Jcat and interested in outcome, but if urologist postpones my orchiectomy again, I will inject my testicles for the forth time with calcium chloride (I do not mix it with alcohol). I wont do it in Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord.
What I noticed, that when I did injection in to testicles for the first time the swelling were huge, when I repeated injection after 1 month swelling were much less. Maybe the same applies to Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injection?
Interesting, I think I have injected 3 times with calcium chloride into the testicle mixed with alcohol. The tird tome was at the upper pole end and that is when I got the most, massive swelling, both sides.
Re: Vas Deferens Spermatic Chord injections
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:03 pm
by jcat (imported)
@Gen Chick, Depending on the outcome of this trial and the urologist I may well do it again and we shall see how much more or less it swells!