I started with Dutasteride 0.5mg (Avodart) everyday, then added in Androcur (currently 25mg daily although first month I was using 100mg) also

use Spirolactone at low doses and I have managed to block DHT as well as T. Results can vary depending on the person.

Chemically castrated, with great effects mostly however I am also noticing symptoms including chronic boredom and not feeling pleasure from

activities I used to feel pleasure from before castration.. I have already made a purchase for estrogen medication (Progynova (Estradiol Valerate)1 mg.

I am considering taking estrogen daily for two weeks and then reducing the frequency to every other day and if it could help make me feel

better. Any suggestions and your experiences ?

What you are likely experiencing is depression, which can be a common result of castration. Either go off the castration drugs or treat the depression.

If I add estrogen would this help depression ?

You are likely to experience feminization of your body with that. When estrogen was used as chem castration drugs for inmates (1960s), most developed man boobs :O

shadow1ninja (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:24 am If I add estrogen would this help depression ?

kristoff wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:01 pm What you are likely experiencing is depression, which can be a common result of castration. Either go off the castration drugs or treat the depression.

I agree. The same happened to me many times. Not even watching movies or listening to music interested me. I also battled concentration and keeping focussed on my work. Adding a small dose of T made me feel better while keeping my libido down. Too much T again makes me more aggressive. Amazing how God designed the workings of hormones.

The "sad" fact is that life is pretty much empowered by sex -- and biologically that means sex hormones. I mean all of our activities and interests evolved as a benefit to procreation. Our interest in sports is an offshoot of our interest in play which is an offshoot of physical fitness (for survival and procreation). Our energy at work is an offshoot of our industriousness which is an offshoot of our fitness (for survival and procreation). And so forth. Without sex hormones, all of these things wane in interest and drive. Lack of interest and drive might feel calm, but also may feel depressed and tired.

If you look at many Eastern religions, "sexual energy" is the major underpinning of both mental and physical health and the driving force (i.e. yin-yang) that makes the world go round.

If you've ever taken steroids for bodybuilding, you'll know that they make your energy, aggression and horniness all go way up -- they actually change your interests and behavior. And it works the other way too, low testosterone will sap energy, make you docile (although also more irritable, which some people mistake for aggression but is not the same thing), and less preoccupied with sex.

Basically I'm saying that it is very hard to be mentally or physically sound and not have sex hormones flowing in your body. Basically without sex hormones you become "old" -- equivalent to a woman after menopause. There is nothing wrong with that, but frankly it comes with a lot of detriments -- mood swings, low energy, depression, osteoporosis, etc.

I totally understand the desire for castration and "eunuch calm" but for many that "calm" is just another way of saying "depressed". Many, many people here who are castrated end up going back on some HRT. Best thing to do is to monitor your hormone levels, try to keep a diary of how you feel, and figure out what the lowest levels you should go to still feel "alive" while getting other benefits of castration.

Progynova Estradiol Valerate) 1mg. arrived today already began taking my 1st dose.. will this help ? anyone use estrogen and what effects did you notice?

Few minutes ago I was thinking about starting a new thread about the same, and maybe I starting it as I have many other questions.

I´m concerned about the same issues like you because I´m planning continue my chemical castration for much much longer. How to add estrogens to fight sides on a long term androgens deprivation?.

The past year I used oestrogel one topical application per week. In that time I took androcur only for four months .But I could not tell if such a very low estrogen doses were really helpful when androgens were complete dropped in a long term deprivation.

I don´t mind feminization. I don´t mind gynecomastia. The only thing I don´t want is that when I´m walking down the street people stare at my big man boobs!!!

would be right a minimal breast enlargement.The less as possible.

My current castration routine: only 12.5mg androcur daily

Blessings!

Maybe nothing to be too afraid of? I suspect that many of us here have some degree of growth, and it generally doesn't upset us. With a little feminization, who knows you might even change your mind about it?

daifu-orchid (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:09 pm Maybe nothing to be too afraid of? I suspect that many of us here have some degree of growth, and it generally doesn't upset us. With a little feminization, who knows you might even change your mind about it?

You´re probably right why not? anything can happen in life!!

But what should be the correct estrogen dosage then only for improve lack testosterone symptoms and prevent osteoporosis?

Blessings!