Just as there are men with "gender dysphoria" because they want to be women, shouldn't there be a diagnostic category for men who are so sexually frustrated that they want to get rid of their sex drives? I believe there are enough of us out there to where "sexual dysphoria" merits its own diagnotic category. Is anyone with me?

Many people think that gender dysphoria is only MtoF when in fact, cover a wide range of possibilities.

I´m agree with you because my dysphorya is for my male features. I never liked my man sexual behaviour and I hated male attitude and having sex urges, desires and all that things .I felt obligated to do such a things. I never wanted that things, I just felt that I was doing it for keep me calm not for "me". I mean, only for mantain my physiological desires satisfied. I felt forced myself to feeling like a man something that I had never asked for although was born as a man . On the other hand I don't want to be a complete woman, I consider myself as an eunuch/neutral gender tending to be more femenine. I like having femenine features, and I feel attraction for men in the same way as a woman. Full changing my mind and my body into a woman... mmm no, I think I had never liked born as a woman neither.;);)

A few weeks ago, I posted some good news about my getting penile inversion to have a vagina. However, I didn't mention how I talked the doctor into agreeing to performing this operation after a psych eval. I told him that there is a difference between gender dysphoria and genital dysphoria because many trans people live as the opposite gender, but have no intention of ever having genital surgery because they have no problem with their biological genitalia. These people have gender dysphoria, but not genital dysphoria. So if they can have one and not the other, then how can I not also have one and not the other, in my case having genital dysphoria but not gender dysphoria, since I want a vagina but remain male? He said I made as astute observation, and agreed that I could be a candidate going forward if I get two letters of recommendation from therapists who agree that I'm mentally stable to go through with such a procedure.

Don't know what became of mverobeach1, but I hope all goes well.

I think he has an important distinction between the parts and the social gender.

I am sure that Jesus has the definitive answer, but it seems that many here enjoy continuing to be in some way male, but eunuchs. They enjoy being without the nuts, but have no intention of doing a M2F. He may be right; genital dysphoria is common here, and gender d is rare? I would suppose that the E2N would fit well with this thinking, very few wanting to be socially F.

As long as he has thought about it and the consequences sufficiently, I wish him well, acquiring whatever alterations for his next stage of life he finds appropriate.

Maybe he'll be able to tell us it was what he wanted, after the surgery has settled. Happy New Year!

There i

daifu-orchid (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:33 pm s an important distinction between the parts and

social gender. Most men are very comfortable socializing male while MTF are better at socializing as females. I have to agree with you that genital dysphoria is more common here then gender dysphoria. That is why we come here seeking answers to our dysphoria. i dislike having a penis and testicles as just about everyone here. To have my penis and testicles to be removed by medical society, i would have to declare myself as a mtf transgender. You also have many MTF who only have gender dysphoria and not genital dysphoria and choose to keep their penis. If mverobeach1 or i decided to have our penis removed and turned into a vagina, it should be our choice as long as we have therapist letters to relieve our genital disorder. You shouldn't have to transition to female to relieve genital dysphoria which intern causes gender dysphoria. Gender is not defined by what you have between the legs

VicistiGalilaee (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:25 pm Just as there are men with "gender dysphoria" because they want to be women,

These are not men who want to be women. They are women wh

mverobeach1 (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:25 pm o were assigned a male gender identity at birth. Just sayin'.

A few weeks ago, I posted some good news about my getting penile inversion to have a vagina. However, I didn't mention how I talked the doctor into agreeing to performing this operation after a psych eval. I told him that there is a difference between gender dysphoria and genital dysphoria because many trans people live as the opposite gender, but have no intention of ever having genital surgery because they have no problem with their biological genitalia. These people have gender dysphoria, but not genital dysphoria. So if they can have one and not the other, then how can I not also have one and not the other, in my case having genital dysphoria but not gender dysphoria, since I want a vagina but remain male? He said I made as astute observation, and agreed that I could be a candidate going forward if I get two letters of recommendation from therapists who agre

e that I'm mentally stable to go through with such a procedure.

This makes perfect sense to me. Basically, you want the same kind of body most trans men have, being regarded as male by society and having a vagina. I know a good many trans guys who are very happy being men with cunts. It's not like this body configuration is unheard of. Lots of folks move through the world with bodies like this and are highly satisfied looking at themselves in the mirror. I'm glad you found a doctor willing to move forward with your request, although I think the two letters of recommendation is quite excessive. It seems terribly unfair to me that someone assigned male at birth would have to jump more hoops and do more work to acquire this type of body than someone who was assigned female at birth. (I only needed one therapist letter to start T, which I got from a therapist with only one visit, and only one letter from my prescribing doctor for my surgeon to perform top surgery.) I hope it has all worked out well in your favor!

Just out of curiosity, "men with cunts" ?

Is that an acceptable thing to say?!

Paolo wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:07 pm Just out of curiosity, "men with cunts" ?

Is that an acceptable thing to say?!

Why wouldn't it be? :-/

EDIT: To be clear... I am a guy with a cunt.

As for ''

VicistiGalilaee (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:25 pm men who are so sexually frustrated that they want to get rid of their sex drives

'', then I'm an example here. I had myself chemically castrated due to the unbearable frustration. I haven't been takind meds for quite some time due to ''budgetary pressures'', but will start as soon as I have enough resources again and feel like it

VicistiGalilaee (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:25 pm Just as there are men with "gender dysphoria" because they want to be women, shouldn't there be a diagnostic category for men who are so sexually frustrated that they want to get rid of their sex drives? I believe there are enough of us out there to where "sexual dysphoria" merits its own diagnotic category. Is anyone with me?