OUTLANDER is a series based on the series of books OUTLANDER

Starz says: Follows the story of Claire Randall, a married combat nurse from 1945 who is mysteriously swept back in time to 1743, where she is immediately thrown into an unknown world where her life is threatened. When she is forced to marry Jamie Fraser, a chivalrous and romantic young Scottish warrior, a passionate relationship is ignited that tears Claire's heart between two vastly different men in two irreconcilable lives.

Episode 1: SASSENACH

is floating around on STARZ, ENCORE, and a few other channels.

I enjoyed the first episode - the title is Scottish slang and means the title in English. It refers to Brits who visit Scotland.

Claire ie believable. The story holds my attention. The Scots are real Scottish men. Jamie Fraser is cute and has that accent. I love the Scottish accent.

And I went to a Scottish College (well, Carnegie tried to be landed gentry and nobleman) .

I probably won't comment on each episode.

Dave (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:11 pm OUTLANDER is a series based on the series of books OUTLANDER

Episode 1: SASSENACH

Dave (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:11 pm the title is Scottish slang and means the title in English.

Sassenach isn't Scottish "slang"; it's simply the Gaelic word for "Saxon," an alternate name for the English or Anglo-Saxons; the Irish version is Sasanach and the Welsh version is Saesneg. Things like read up and nebby could more properly be called Scottish slang as they are non-standard English.

gareth19 (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:29 am Sassenach isn't Scottish "slang"; it's simply the Gaelic word for "Saxon," an alternate name for the English or Anglo-Saxons; the Irish version is Sasanach and the Welsh version is Saesneg. Things like read up and nebby could more properly be called Scottish slang as they are non-standard English.

Think about how terms like this are used:

If you watch the episode, the Scottish townsfolk use Sassenach as American Southerners would use "Yankee" or American Northerners would use "Hillbilly" or "Okie" or "redneck" ... It is also clear that Caire is called Sassenach because she isn't Scottish. They know she is from the south (England) and they use the word to indicate she is not of any Scottish Clan.

She is a British "redcoat" much as existed in our Civil War. That's important. IT's the naming of loyalties that was just "not much" at the end of WW2 but earlier in history . . . It is very much a "clan" thing.

When she falls back in time 200 years, her vocabulary becomes much more important. Her words immediately mark her as an outsider and a Brit from the South. Two Hundred years ago the Scots were fighting the same British Redcoats. It marks her as being a possible spy or at the best non-sypathetic to Scotland.

SO yes, it means Saxon in Gaelic. But when the WW@ townsfolk say it, they mean "other than us" and when the 18th Century Scots say it, the mean more than just "outsider" they mean "Outlander" which is, of course, the title of the story.

I quite enjoyed the first episode and will definitely watch the second. It was very well done.

The boar hunt was good.

In general it is too, too girlie.

Men are around just to be abusive or take physical abuse.

Moi

Most men 250 years ago defined themselves by being the biggest brute and leader of the pack.

Some men still do. The liberation of women from men's dominance is relatively recent (like less than half of that 250 year time difference)

It's the old "I kill and bring food - you take care of babies" and "I can put out the life-giving fire without getting my crotch hairs singed" syndrome.

Men dominate by being killers and brutes and sexists.

And the story is about Clair Randall (A wife and nurse of WW2, having seen the horror of war and as strong as Rosy the Riveter) and not the cute and adorable hunky Jamie Fraser (somewhat of a bad boy thief and rebel) or his relatives (who are major-league boorish, BTW).

Dave (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:50 am Most men 250 years ago defined themselves by being the biggest brute and leader of the pack.

Some men still do. The liberation of women from men's dominance is relatively recent (like less than half of that 250 year time difference)

It's the old "I kill and bring food - you take care of babies" and "I can put out the life-giving fire without getting my crotch hairs singed" syndrome.

Men dominate by being killers and brutes and sexists.

And the story is about Clair Randall (A wife and nurse of WW2, having seen the horror of war and as strong as Rosy the Riveter) and not the cute and adorable hunky Jamie Fraser (somewhat of a bad boy thief and rebel) or his relatives (who are major-league boorish, BTW).

And she's a Victoria's Secret model too.

Moi

moi621 (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:22 pm And she's a Victoria's Secret model too.

Moi

If memory serves Victoria secret was that she was actually a guy. poor moi.

River

I heard the word "Sassenach" for the second time in my life today.

It's in a movie called THE WATER HORSE which is a nice family movie that if I find is on some channel and there is not much else then I leave it on.

the movie is set near Loch Ness and the water horse is basically the Loch Ness Monster.

However, suddenly, in the middle of the movie one of the Scots gets PO'ed at a Brit and calls him Sassenach.

"Sassenach" is a Scots word meaning Englishman. It is the most vile insult possible in Scots. The word comes through Gaelic and Latin from "Saxon". --FLO--