I've been on Siterone for 6 months. Now on a lower dose. I truly enjoyed the results of the higher starter dosage. The lower dosage has provided maintenance but not the full effect.

Part of the reason, I started Siterone was due to having a severe case of androgenic alopecia and a problem with sebum. I think my testosterone levels were through the roof. It started around my 45th birthday. Maybe some sort of peak before man-o-pause I couldn't get my dermatologist to prescribe Propecia even. When I brought up getting my T levels checked he always discounted it. He insisted that since the original symptoms were in line with alopecia aerate, it wasn't androgenic. Less than six months of using Siterone, my head hair is back to what it was in my twenty's.

If I were to consider injections, alcohol or CACL?

I've read through the two monster threads and just can't make a decision.

After using both methods I would suggest ethyl alcohol. While it does take longer, it is "safer" and should, within a couple of months completely shut down your T levels.

I don't think anyone can advise you what to do. You have to read the experience of others, filter out the dross and make an informed decision. Each one of us is different and all sorts of factors come into play. Your natural T levels, your general state of health........

The experience of others is helpful. What I do know about alcohol injections is that for it to be at all effective you need to use Everclear or other very high content alcohol. The 40% stuff is not anywhere near as effective and you have to do many, many injections to have a hope of success. The most successful have used Everclear or in my case Spyritus 195% Polish vodka.

The Calcium Chloride method has been very successful for some. It is a lot more painful. However, the potential results are quicker with just a few injections.

It is also clear that those who have switched from alcohol to calcium chloride have experienced additional difficulties because of the damage by the alcohol and hardening of the testicle.

I opted for alcohol and stuck with my Polish vodka, after 16 1ml injections my testicles are dead and I reached my first goal. I still have small, shrivelled testicles which I would like to be rid of, but that is another story.

The most important thing if you do decide to start injecting is to be very careful about sterile injecting and the quality of the substance you use. In many respects alcohol is safer because you do not have to distil powder into liquid and run the risk of infection from this process. Many mix alcohol with calcium chloride to compensate for this......

At the end of the day it is a journey full of all kind s of risks and unless you can carefully draw up the list of pros and cons of each method, you are not ready to decide which.

Above all stay safe. My advice? Research more.

Niether. Should you decide to later have your testicles physically removed you're going to make the job of whoever does it for you a LOT more difficult.

--LT

As a frequent poster on these forums, I will weigh in here. Certainly the most successfuk way to eliminate Testosterone from your system is to have the testicles removed, it is not always so easy to accomplish. While there are several open minded surgeons in the US, cost can be a factor for many.

You wisely did not ask questions about devices like a burdizzo or a bander, both of which are VERY dangerous. The risks far outweight the possible( but unlikely) success.

I have been in commnication with quite a few who have used both alcohol, and more recently calcium chloride injections to damage the testicles, and slow or stop both sperm and testosterone production. Over time both seem to cause the desired effect, but as with anything else , there is a risk of infection or a negative reaction to whichever substance you choose to inject.

It is true that many surgeons who would not even remotely consider removing healthy testicles are much more amenable to removing ones that are atrophied and therfore potentially dangerous to overall health. For the most part , the damage inflicted is untraceable to a specific thing, so no one will know for sure what you did. The damage appears the same as that caused by a major trauma to the area, which results in damaged cells, and appears on ultrasound like a calcified mass.

Keep reading and studying all the inforamation you can find, and if you can have a chat with several people who have used these methods, to better gauge if the choice is right for you. Keep in mind that every person is different, and your results may vary widely from others.

What ever you choose to do, be safe, and sterile, and cautious.

Raymar

Last night I did my 2nd injection in 1 week of 2cc's vodka in my right testicle. Same as the first no discomfort or swelling the testicle just felt very hard. I did this while I was in the middle of a 2 hr banding & needle session. I believe that after so many years of prostate and epididymitis infections as well a long banding sessions my right testicle is not fully functional anyway and the left not far behind. I can hit, pinch, do almost anything has very little feelings. I have been on 1.5cc's of testosterone injections for the last 6 months. My T level was below 20 this was before any vodka injections. I just can't wait till there gone as I'm tired of these infections every few months and have always hated my balls since I was child. I'm 62 and looking forward to spending what's left of my life as a eunuch.