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Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:58 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
fhunter et al.
How would this work. Sounds like a Tesla dream. The man, not the car.
Maybe extend a long antenna into the charged ionosphere and take what you want ?
Please advise.
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/toyo ... ml/?ref=YF
Toyota has acquired the rights to wireless charging technology that would allow its plug-in vehicles to charge away from outlets.
More EMF pollution.
Moi
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:19 am
by Riverwind (imported)
Only if you stand between them.
River
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:57 pm
by fhunter
The only way it can work is - like an air core transformer, probably at high frequency, to make it more efficient. A bit like RFID tags and wireless chargers for cell phones.
Tesla did a similar thing - Tesla coil (
http://www.mike-tedesco.com/blog/wp-con ... a-coil.jpg) is an air core resonance transformer.
I have my doubts if it would properly work, especially if an ordinary car would stand above the charger (Eddy currents
, if the car bottom would be conductive, the charger would end up as inductive heater, if the frequency is high enough. And if it would be low - the efficiency of the charger would be low.). Have you ever seen an induction furnace?
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:23 pm
by moi621 (imported)
fhunter wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:57 pm
The only way it can work is - like an air core transformer, probably at high frequency, to make it more efficient. A bit like RFID tags and wireless chargers for cell phones.
Tesla did a similar thing - Tesla coil (
http://www.mike-tedesco.com/blog/wp-con ... a-coil.jpg) is an air core resonance transformer.
I have my doubts if it would properly work, especially if an ordinary car would stand above the charger (Eddy currents
, if the car bottom would be conductive, the charger would end up as inductive heater, if the frequency is high enough. And if it would be low - the efficiency of the charger would be low.). Have you ever seen an induction furnace?
NO !
Do you mean to express the Japanese purchased rights to something that will never work?
And will those around such units be better off in tin foil caps and likewise their pacemakers?
Thanks fhunter, I appreciate you being on Board.
Why do you use fhunter and not Fhunter?
Moi
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:18 pm
by fhunter
NO !
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:23 pm
Do you mean to express the Japanese purchased rights to something that will never work?
And will those around such units be better off in tin foil caps and likewise their pacemakers?
Thanks fhunter, I appreciate you being on Board.
Why do you use fhunter and not Fhunter?
Moi
I haven't said that it would not work. This works for charging phones
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonant_i ... e_coupling
I said that I have my concerns, not that it does not work. In experiments, distance was about 10cm, the more the distance, the less the efficiency of the transfer. So - if you are standing outside this thing, at about 1 or 2 it's sizes, you will be safe. Some medical implants are charged in similar way, only at lower power.
Re: name, cause it is not a name abbreviation, and I am used to usernames in lowercase
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:37 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
I can see it now, Moi pulling his SUV up into his garage with the metal plate on the bottom and top, turning on the power unit right after he puts on the protective clothing (knows that the aluminum cap would be a bad thing) and proceeds to fry one of his cats.
River
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:36 pm
by Dave (imported)
You can buy induction burners for cooking.
I'm mostly an electric dummy but those are the same principle -- the current induces heat in a metal pot or skillet and cooks the food.
I hope that's right.
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:32 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Dave (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:36 pm
You can buy induction burners for cooking.
I'm mostly an electric dummy but those are the same principle -- the current induces heat in a metal pot or skillet and cooks the food.
I hope that's right.
And they have no effect on Aluminum or Aluminum Foil used for making cap.
I bought those portable ones they advertise on TV
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
So will induction battery charging produce cooked batteries? Or exploding ones?
Moi
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:11 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
Oh pleeeesssssseeee tell me its not so,
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moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:32 pm
I bought those portable ones they advertise on TV HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
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REALLY?????
:D ROTFLMAO
River
Re: Wireless Charging for Plug-Ins
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:27 am
by Dave (imported)
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:32 pm
And they have no effect on Aluminum or Aluminum Foil used for making cap.
I bought those portable ones they advertise on TV
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
So will induction battery charging produce cooked batteries? Or exploding ones?
Moi
A portable aluminum foil cap?
I thought they sold that stuff in rolls?
