This video has confirmed my anti flying attitudes.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/ai ... .html?vp=1

Toward the end of a nearly seven-hour flight from Dubai to Birmingham, England, passengers got a terrifying scare Thursday when heavy winds almost forced the plane into a sideways landing.

The pilot of the Boeing 777, operated by Dubai-based Emirates Airlines, made two attempts to land at Birmingham Airport in the midst of heavy storms that battered the area Thursday, according to The Birmingham Mail.

In video of the attempted landings, the plane approaches the runway sideways and at a right angle before twice going back up in the air instead.

After the two aborted landings, the pilot flew the 777 an additional 100 miles to London's Gatwick Airport, where it landed safely, . . .

Why wasn't this plane redirected to land at a safer site?

$ first, not safety.

Moi

:hearthrob terra firma, stay grounded

moi621 (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:21 pm This video has confirmed my anti flying attitudes.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/ai ... .html?vp=1

Toward the end of a nearly seven-hour flight from Dubai to Birmingham, England, passengers got a terrifying scare Thursday when heavy winds almost forced the plane into a sideways landing.

The pilot of the Boeing 777, operated by Dubai-based Emirates Airlines, made two attempts to land at Birmingham Airport in the midst of heavy storms that battered the area Thursday, according to The Birmingham Mail.

In video of the attempted landings, the plane approaches the runway sideways and at a right angle before twice going back up in the air instead.

After the two aborted landings, the pilot flew the 777 an additional 100 miles to London's Gatwick Airport, where it landed safely, . . .

Why wasn't this plane redirected to land at a safer site?

$ first, not safety.

Moi

:hearthrob terra firma, stay grounded

Moi, I can not watch a video (not available at your country), but crosswind landing is a standard procedure (up to a certain angle).

I am much more afraid of companies cutting costs on plane service and pilot's rest.

fhunter wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:47 pm Moi, I can not watch a video (not available at your country), but crosswind landing is a standard procedure (up to a certain angle).

I am much more afraid of companies cutting costs on plane service and pilot's rest.

Here's a link to a Google search of various published videos of a 777 trying to land in Birmingham.

https://www.google.com/#q=airplane+land ... 77&tbm=vid

Hope one works and you can chime in if that was too crosswinded to attempt the landing.

I certainly hope your comment doesn't reflect the difference between Americans' expectations that planes land safely 100% of the time, and Russian air travel within Russia

Moi

I've flown three times in my life but never again, it terrifies me.

Sorry to disagree with you guys, but it is the pilot and not the company's accountants who makes the decision.

Mac is hereby banned from landing a B-52 in a crosswind or night carrier landings in a thunderstorm.

I'm a rational man, generally. Weird, but rational.

I know all the reasons why flying is safe and fun and good. I get it. Arab Nights sounds like a very confident and knowledgeable flyer and I truly 'get' the logic of flying.

And yet... I can't do it anymore.

Flown in a commercial jet a few times but I'm always scared shitless before the flight, then excited during the rush of acceleration (that's the only truly fun part for me), and then I alternate between bored and terrified as many tons of dumb steel and plastic hurtles through the air. And, the last flight ended with us rocketing into the air at a crazy-steep angle because of something on the runway.

The reason I'm scared to fly is not the companies or the pilots or a misunderstanding of actuarial tables indicating it's safer than driving; it's a weighted assessment of risk involving a situation wherein ONE mistake, ONE little oops, can cause not just death but many minutes of terror followed by death.

See, in a car crash, you have 1 or 2 seconds of realization before KA-SMASH you're dead, but in general, A MAJOR MALFUNCTION or ERROR in the mechanics of the vehicle won't cause death in a car. If the wheels fall off in normal driving, you got a chance to recover.

The the motor falls right the hell out of my car, or a door flies off, I can probably recover.

But if one single system totally fails, or some dude misses one critical bolt, or some bizarre situation rips off a wing of a PLANE, and it's hopeless to recover, you get the joy of being in a cage with a hundred other humans, all screaming for minutes as we twist downwards to our so-long-in-coming-but-way-too-fast death.

And I KNOW there are redundant systems on planes, I know planes rarely just belly-flop out of the sky... but it DOES happen (yes, just like in cars, too... shaddup). It's a matter of severity and criticalness of perfection required for a big plane that freaks me out.

This is why I wish 'professional' fliers would give those of us who won't fly due to safety concerns a break. We aren't all just dummies who are a bunch of scardy-cats who don't understand how safe flying is. I know how safe it is... I just can't handle relying on SO MANY people doing there jobs perfectly. I have a chance of recovery if my car's wheel falls off, but if my jetliner loses a wing, it's a long, scream-filled last couple of minutes.

(Arab Nights, I just re-read this post and want to assure you that last paragraph isn't directed at you! It sorta looks like it is, but it aint ).

Safety has nothing to do with my reluctance to fly. If I want to get felt up I'll go to a bar not a security check point and I have no desire to pay hundreds of dollars to occupy the most uncomfortable seating position outside of an interrogation center. --FLO--

moi621 (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:30 am Here's a link to a Google search of various published videos of a 777 trying to land in Birmingham.

https://www.google.com/#q=airplane+land ... 77&tbm=vid

Hope one works and you can chime in if that was too crosswinded to attempt the landing.

I certainly hope your comment doesn't reflect the difference between Americans' expectations that planes land safely 100% of the time, and Russian air travel within Russia

Moihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXSL-uMnE2w - this one?

It is going at about 30° to the landing strip. The pilot just was not sure, that he will land safely (if I see correctly, he overcompensated at approach, an was going too much to the right side of the strip).

Maximum crosswind for a 777 is about 40 knots (as far as I am able to find it).

Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:11 am Safety has nothing to do with my reluctance to fly. If I want to get felt up I'll go to a bar not a security check point and I have no desire to pay hundreds of dollars to occupy the most uncomfortable seating position outside of an interrogation center. --FLO--

100% agreement! It's not the flight I mind. It's airport traffic, surly airline employees (attractive gay flight attendants excepted), brainless TSA small minds with bad attitudes, delays, lost luggage, being packed in like cattle in seats smaller than my desk in 3rd grade, bad food etc. I fly when I must, which thankfully is rare. I like to drive. It's relaxing. Better yet if I can ride my Harley.

I have never in my life flown from one place to another and I probably never will. When I was six-years-old, I took a ride on a biplane but it landed at the same airport that it took off from.