I was reading an article about the NSA spying fiasco and came across a reference to a tor based deep web. There is a search engine called: https://ahmia.fi/ that indexes sites there. I looking around the search index, I came across a site called 'PenisPanic'. It appears to be all about genital mutilation, however, it appears to be down.

Anyone know anything about this site?

Let me ask this question....

Half of the TOR website was just taken down in the last Child Pornography crackdown that occurred in both the USA and world wide.

And that is the same server farm that you are asking if anyone knows anything about and/or has been too?

I hate to ask this so rudely and bluntly but are you out of your mind or just stupid?

Run away from the TOR websites and anything related to them. Far away.

And if TOR was so secretive and secure, how'd that all get busted, then?

Paolo wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:33 pm And if TOR was so secretive and secure, how'd that all get busted, then?

As I understand it, ANONYMOUS (the group of hackers) declared war on child pornography a few months ago.

The suspicion is that they worked with the FBI or some other international police force and delivered the pornographer on a silver platter.

It's not TOR that was targeted but FREEDOM HOSTING which provided TOR anonymity and hiding to Eric Eoin Marques, the IRishman who was arrested as the largest facilitator of kiddie porn on the internet. The coincidence is that for a time (24 hours or so) before the arrest and shutdown of the porn sites (half the websites within Freedom Hosting) someone deployed malware from the website that send the users identity to an IP in Reston, Virginia. Actually, that is one of SAIC's servers (Science Applications International Corporation) ... HOWEVER, they discovered that "addresses are not part of SAIC’s publicly-listed allocation. They’re part of a ghost block of eight IP addresses that have no organization listed. Those addresses trace no further than the Verizon "

That reeks of law enforcement.

Wired magazine has the FBI theory and what they think is circumstantial evidence.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/0 ... m-hosting/

The Independent in Ireland has the Eric Eoin Marques story...

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/co ... 69402.html

I still say run away from those sites - run far away.

Dave (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:35 pm I still say run away from those sites - run far away.

Given all this, I agree. Glad I asked before poking around.

Based on the article I read (can't find it now.. but it was titled "Tor Hidden Websites and why you want to go there." (or something like that) there were legitimate uses other that CP and drug dealing. But, better safe that sorry.. Be sides, based on the search results, it appears most of what was indexed was on normal web as well and could be found on Bing.. The search engine above is publicly accessible on the normal internet and states that they ban CP. I would hope the really scary stuff would not be indexed on a publicly accessible search or wiki page as the Feds should be all over shutting that down.

Thanks!

Dave (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:13 pm I hate to ask this so rudely and bluntly but are you out of your mind or just stupid?

Run away from the TOR websites and anything related to them. Far away.

What is REALLY wrong with TOR websites? Sure, you have much higher probability of catching something really bad (or "accidentally" sharing your passwords with so

Paolo wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:33 pm me hacker), but other than that... I don't know...

And if TOR was so se

cretive and secure, how'd that all get busted, then?

Either social engineering, or some virus/worm which "phones home", or they've got an insider there.

One interesting idea to think: both TOR exit node and an "open" proxy are rather expensive to keep (traffic, you know). So, here is the question - WHO would keep a TOR exit node or and open proxy.

PS. So, it was probably virus: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/ ... 00089.html (see the IMPACT section).

I do feel bad about being rude.

There is nothing "wrong" with the TOR websites or TOR email.

In countries where the internet is censored, those people can get to the internet through the TOR websites and read the news from outside the country. ALso, dissidents can use it the emails.

My question more was given the recent history of the arrest in Ireland and the USA and that strange piece of Malware that showed up and was reporting every visitor, it might be advisable to stay away from the TOR websites.

Thanks for the Links Dave and FHunter -- good articles!

fhunter wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:51 pm So, here is the question - WHO would keep a TOR exit node or and open proxy.

I've often wondered the same thing myself...