>>This is most uncivilized behavior and even that is sugar coating it.
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Soccer Referee Killed And Quartered By Fans In Brazil After Fatally Stabbing Player: POLICE
07/06/13 03:29 PM ET EDT
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/0 ... 55436.html
SAO PAULO -- Police say enraged spectators invaded a football field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body after he stabbed a player to death.
The Public Safety Department of the state of Maranhao says in a statement that it all started when referee Otavio da Silva expelled player Josenir Abreu from a game last weekend. The two got into a fist fight, then Silva took out a knife and stabbed Abreu, who died on his way to the hospital.
The statement issued this week says Abreu's friends and relatives immediately "rushed into the field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body."
Local news media say the spectators also decapitated Silva and stuck his head on a stake in the middle of the field.
Police have arrested one suspect.
one of the most uncivilized stories I've read in many years
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Re: one of the most uncivilized stories I've read in many years
I read that story on Facebook. I never had any interest in sports and certainly do not like violence. I hope we are not regressing to the days of the Coliseum and death as entertainment. I had that same fear when concealed carry came to Ohio.
Re: one of the most uncivilized stories I've read in many years
Yea. And they claim American football is a contact sport! Bunch of wimps..
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Re: one of the most uncivilized stories I've read in many years
Sounds like the screenplay for a remake of "Lord of the Flies."
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Re: one of the most uncivilized stories I've read in many years
In less than a thousand days the Olympics will be held in Brasil. In Rio. What one needs to know is that this is a violent place for all the spectacular scenes. The poverty is appalling. The largest part of the population live in the Favelas, a place of grinding poverty and extremely organized crime. Keep in mind that it's in Rio where, before banks are robbed, the robbers usually try and shoot down the police helicopters. Crime is so routine you have to have something like this atrocity to even get the locals to notice. Argentina, their neighbour to the South, has strict laws about Brasilians traveling into their country; It's harder for a citizen of Brasil to get a tourist visa for Buenos Aires than it is for someone from Russia,China or North Korea. That's suggestive, isn't it. I rang up a friend in Sao Paulo who said the reality is even worse than what has been reported. In his mind, what made it worse was that the crowd stayed and shouted encouragement and suggestions to the attacker. As a Paulista, he decries this saying it couldn't happen in his city but...as he then says, it depends on which two teams are playing......
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Re: one of the most uncivilized stories I've read in many years
One view of such terrible/horrible human conduct is that it is uncivilized, another is that it is of the essence of human civilization, and which is which may be a function of what one understands human civilization to actually be.
The question of what human civilization is or isn't falls into the field of human inquiry that I know by the name of biosemiotics.
What the &^%# *@#! &^%) @*%$ do I know about biosemiotics?
Well, while I have university degrees in bioengineering, the main sort of work I do as a bioengineer is, forgive me, biosemiotics.
When I was somewhat younger than I am now, back in 1947-48, I had come to recognize that no realm of human inquiry (meaning, no branch of science, religion, nonsense, whatever, or make-believe) had the tools needed for solving such problems as, "Why was World War II?"
Being not nearly smart enough to realize how stupid I was, I set out in unrelenting pursuit of the tools which would properly solve, "Why was World War II?) and other such intractable problems. Unrelenting and intractable are a tad like that irresistible force meeting an immovable object conundrum of classical physics. That sort of problem perhaps is a close relative of dividing zero by zero; the result may be outside the realm of anything and everything even slightly predictable.
By some time in 1948, I had glommed onto a wisp of a hint of what later became named biosemiotics. I have crammed about 65 years of my life into the work of a biosemiotician; that work inspired me to study bioengineering to improve my tool collection.
It was only around 1990 that I first ran into the word, "semiotics." Fortunately, for me, never having learned to think in, or with, words, I did not need the name of the work I was doing to do that work.
There is a portion of a book in .pdf format on the Internet that addresses something of biosemiotics, at:
http://semiorganized.com/articles/other ... miotics%20 (D.%20Favareau).pdf
Biosemiotics has the tool set that can solve any, and every problem, that being the result of the problem-solving tool set of biosemiotics being able to make any and every other problem-solving tool not yet made. Biosemiotics is a fractal process made of fractal processes, made of fractal processes...
The question of what human civilization is or isn't falls into the field of human inquiry that I know by the name of biosemiotics.
What the &^%# *@#! &^%) @*%$ do I know about biosemiotics?
Well, while I have university degrees in bioengineering, the main sort of work I do as a bioengineer is, forgive me, biosemiotics.
When I was somewhat younger than I am now, back in 1947-48, I had come to recognize that no realm of human inquiry (meaning, no branch of science, religion, nonsense, whatever, or make-believe) had the tools needed for solving such problems as, "Why was World War II?"
Being not nearly smart enough to realize how stupid I was, I set out in unrelenting pursuit of the tools which would properly solve, "Why was World War II?) and other such intractable problems. Unrelenting and intractable are a tad like that irresistible force meeting an immovable object conundrum of classical physics. That sort of problem perhaps is a close relative of dividing zero by zero; the result may be outside the realm of anything and everything even slightly predictable.
By some time in 1948, I had glommed onto a wisp of a hint of what later became named biosemiotics. I have crammed about 65 years of my life into the work of a biosemiotician; that work inspired me to study bioengineering to improve my tool collection.
It was only around 1990 that I first ran into the word, "semiotics." Fortunately, for me, never having learned to think in, or with, words, I did not need the name of the work I was doing to do that work.
There is a portion of a book in .pdf format on the Internet that addresses something of biosemiotics, at:
http://semiorganized.com/articles/other ... miotics%20 (D.%20Favareau).pdf
Biosemiotics has the tool set that can solve any, and every problem, that being the result of the problem-solving tool set of biosemiotics being able to make any and every other problem-solving tool not yet made. Biosemiotics is a fractal process made of fractal processes, made of fractal processes...
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Re: one of the most uncivilized stories I've read in many years
I don't care, FRACTAL or FRICKTAL the more people you have in one crowd, the dumber the collective behaviors. Add to that some sort of "GAME"... and a lynch mob is calm by comparison. And to think how we CRITICIZED the Mayan culture for KILLING the losing team, frankly, I see this behavior returning.
So did they cut out his heart and throw the carcass down the steps to the stadium? :shakemitk
So did they cut out his heart and throw the carcass down the steps to the stadium? :shakemitk