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severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:06 am
by mikemorgan (imported)
Hello, I've just joined this website today and need some advice please as I'm at the end of my tether. It seems that the reasons for getting a castration far outway the negatives. Firstly I'm 24, only had two girlfriends in my life and am not interested in sex in the slightest. I masturbate far too often and I hate it, its like im crippled by it and to make things worse I've started balding at the temples which is making me very depressed. It feels like my life in on a stop watch and I only have a few more years with hair before I get so depressed I commit suicide. All I want in life is to be happy, I don't really care much for relationships or sex or partners I just want to live free from my demons. My questions to you are, does castration remove all urges for sex and secondly does castration stop male pattern balding dead in its tracks??? does anyone have any experiences of this, anyone continued balding since being castrated?
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:05 am
by Milkman (imported)
Yikes!! Get help for your depression immediately!! Remember that 90% of people with depression improve with either talk therapy , medication or a combination of the 2. It is a very treatable disease: I know I have had terrible bouts of it myself. And if you are worried about hair loss, try Propecia , which not only stops hair loss but calms libido in a number of men.... Please let us know how you are doing and feel free to post here. Castration can be a valid choice, but if done for positive reasons.. not from negative self-image and depression
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:02 am
by JesusA (imported)
Hello Mike,
Welcome to the zoo. Look around; ask questions. We work hard to keep this place as friendly as possible. Youll find all sorts here, most of them among the nicest youre likely to find on-line.
Milkman has just given excellent advice. Work on the depression first, and IMMEDIATELY. Call NHS and get started on it. Everything else can be worked on over time.
The most important advice after getting help with your depression is to never do anything irreversible unless youve explored all of the reversible alternatives first. If, after sufficient exploration, you decide that lowered testosterone is best for you, there are short-term trials possible to make certain that it is the right choice. I suspect, though, that a thorough exploration will lead you in a different direction. Taking care of your depression may be all that you really need.....
Youve laid out far too many questions in your first post for anyone to answer them short of a very long essay. Once youve done some exploration here, I would recommend that you ask no more than one or two questions in any single post. Youre far more likely to be several thoughtful answers that way.
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:23 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
At this early stage I do not think that castration would be useful or desirable for you. Do not take any action until your depression is tackled. Drastic moves made while you are depressed are inevitably regrettable. We would all like for you to have an improved life not a life made more stressful. You will have all the time you need to ask questions after you deal with the effects of depression --FLO--
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:26 am
by raymar2020 (imported)
Hi and welcome,
If you are feeling depressed, castration may be the last thing you need. A lack of testosterone can make people who were never depressed feel that way.
As for hair loss, there is no guarantee that anything will stop it. Propecia , is really dangerous to take. While those who have issues with it are a small number, it is possible to forever wreck your system for the absorbtion of testosterone. losing your hair, while inconvenient is certainly not the end of the world. These days there are replacement technologies that are affordable and permenant.
My advise would be to seek out a good therapist to talk with about depression, and once you get that on track, I am betting that any interest in castration will fade away.Some men are really driven sexually , and others not, finding what works for you is a slow process.
Deal with the depression first, and then look at the other things.
Raymar
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:34 am
by mikemorgan (imported)
I really appreciate everyones concern. For years now I've been involved in radical politics including GLBT and I'm always so impressed of how good everyone treats each other. I shall propecia first, see how it goes but if it ends bandly then castration will be my last resort, I've always liked the idea of not being sexually active, i dont like sex really. My only question at the moment is what are peoples experience with hair loss and castration. have people experienced baldness before castration and then it stopped or slowed down?? im not looking into going into HRT either
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:48 pm
by Zoroaster (imported)
mikemorgan (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:34 am
I really appreciate everyones concern. For years now I've been involved in radical politics including GLBT and I'm always so impressed of how good everyone treats each other. I shall propecia first, see how it goes but if it ends bandly then castration will be my last resort, I've always liked the idea of not being sexually active, i dont like sex really. My only question at the moment is what are peoples experience with hair loss and castration. have people experienced baldness before castration and then it stopped or slowed down?? im not looking into going into HRT either
Speaking from personal experience here with all the things you've mentioned: Raymar is absolutely right. Castration is the opposite of what you want. There is an outside chance it might slow your hair loss, but a good chance it won't and an even greater chance that it will simply slow it a bit, leaving you nutless, depressed, and bald too.
As for your depression, the very best thing you can possibly do is the thing I'm willing to bet you most don't want to: exercise. It is dead-up the cure for depression, NOTHING works better. Join a gym and start lifting weights or go running or something after work. You'll hate it, you won't want to do it, you'll feel like you're all weak and weepy and want to just stay in, but that just feeds the depression. When it's your thinking that's gone wonky, you're not going to fix it by more thinking.
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:09 pm
by foxytaur (imported)
hair loss is more than just DHT,IGF-1(protein that causes excessive bone growth for those interested in the skull expansion theorem and again tied to DHT), T , seratonin, PDG-2 protein, cortisol(stress), and other neurotransmitter chemicals.
Most importantly It has to be genetically turned on or expressed in your genes inorder to start the balding process.
Apparently mom and pop X genes carry the greatest susceptibility for baldness
with the Y chromosome playing a minor but still great risk of carrying over baldness.
(I have a hunch that if your safe on the X chromosome side, the small risk on y chromosme side may explain why some males go bald way into their 70's or 80's)
I agree castration will very likely reduce hair loss to very slow rates but dont think it'll stop it entirely. And while estrogen can slow it down lets not forget females can experience their own version of balding.(chances are very statistically less than males but noneless females can bald too especially with the onset of menopause and female pattern balness is reffered to Ludwig Pattern Baldness )
I mean I havent lost anything yet and have still retained a juvenile hairline but it may change within 5,10, 15,20....40 yrs ....shrugs who knows?
So many factors involved and the likelyhood of keeping a full set of hair when your 90 yrs of age is extremely thin.
Whats very true is the trait for baldness is very prominent in the genepool (It's only getting larger too) so hang in there Mikemorgan.
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:21 am
by mikemorgan (imported)
Thankyou for your help. I always assumed that with a small amount of testosterone and no HRT then the hairloss with practically stop, especially if you use a antiandrogen topically as wll
Re: severely depressed, please help
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:45 pm
by ~Tiamat~ (imported)
If you're just started balding the odds are you will get it back fine with a topical? Castration will accellerate depression in most men and propecia comes with a ton of other side effects. Someone just before you posted something you might find worth reading -
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... ice-Needed