I know that the hormone effects your body, but im interested to know-

does it affect your brain to? do you also start think and analyze (spelling?) things like a woman?

can female hormones can be taken if u have testicles? and if its a yes, What is the feeling diffrent from a man?

curious as hell, thank you.

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I am chemically castrated and have taken female hormones which has caused me to grow B cup breast that are quite noticeable. When I see a women now I study her breast,not in a sexual way as i used to,but am comparing them with mine and thinking if eventually I would like mine like hers.I am looking forward to the summer when the women are more scantilly dressed which makes comparisons more exiting.

thewave22 (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:14 pm I know that the hormone effects your body, but im interested to know-

does it affect your brain to?

Yeah, I don't hate myself as much as I used to and have found some comfort with my body. That's on 1mg Progynova and 100mg Spiro per day. I'm looking to increase that dose, as I rather like the bodily effects.

Otherwise, apart from nog being as fluent with visual thinking, I don't notice much difference. Maybe at some higher dose...

thewave22 (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:14 pm I know that the hormone effects your body, but im interested to know-

does it affect your brain to? do you also start think and analyze (spelling?) things like a woman?

can female hormones can be taken if u have testicles? and if its a yes, What is the feeling diffrent from a man?

curious as hell, thank you.

:dong:

The BIG difference is emotions. On normal male hormones, I felt like all of my emotional responses to things were muted, as if I recognized that they were there but they just didn't seem to affect me. Where on estrogen, they do. Big time. I laugh so hard that my muscles get sore now. And I cry a LOT, over the stupidest things. That did not happen before. Other possible mental changes are, for transsexuals at least, gaining a sense of "self" for the first time, like the thoughts in your mind are finally working right, and often intense feelings of euphoria. At a MtF transsexual who started a full feminizing hormone regiment just over a month and a half ago, I've experienced all of these mental effects. And in addition to that, I've started feeling more social... I like talking to people more now. And my ability to multi-task has DRASTICALLY increased.

It has been reported that estrogen, over a long amount of time, causes the brain to start redistributing itself to more feminine proportions, and lots of MtF transsexuals do report that their interests change, they think differently, and things like their sense of direction and spatial abilities become more difficult. But this is not a fast process. It takes months, if not years. And it does not happen for everyone. This is very much a "your mileage will vary" thing. Some people report that they don't feel any different at all, some report that their entire plane of existence feels different and they're just not into any of the things they used to be into anymore.

To answer the later questions, yes, you technically can take female hormones if you have testicles. I do. But that's because, again, I'm a transsexual. So it is NOT my mission in life to take feminizing hormones just to "feel the effects" while keeping my body the same. I plan to do a full transition some day, and thus the (very permanent) changes that taking estrogen has caused are welcome to me. If you are NOT transsexual, and you do not want to have the body of a woman, I recommend that you don't even touch them. Because even taken without anti-androgens to go with them, estrogen eventually does take over your endocrine system and shut down T production all by itself. In fact, most transsexual hormone regiments begin with just a low-dose estrogen suppliment to ease the body into it. This is NOT something to mess around with. Once the estrogen shuts down the testicles' fertility capabilities, there's no guarantee that it will ever return. Once you start growing boobs (which started happening for me less than a month in,) they are pretty much completely permanent. And be forewarned, these drugs have SERIOUS potential to mess with your mind. If you have depressive thoughts, it can make it MUCH worse. Because although your highs get higher, your lows also get much lower. Violent mood swings from euphoria one minute to being suicidal the next are surprisingly common. And it usually takes several months for these moods to even out. I'm admittedly still in the middle of this rough stage, and I really do get extremely depressed for no good reason on some days, while other days it feels like I'm walking on a cloud. So again, just be careful. This is serious stuff we're talking about here. Permanent physical changes, and the potential for serious mental effects that not all will be able to cope with.

I wont lie cheetaking E actually scares me to a extent. But to say it controls your mind well thats kinda moot. It does amplify your rightful sex feelings which can be too potent for some or not a big problem for others.

Im glad your coping with the sideeffects of E.

Im a little scared what it will do to bi gender/ genderqueer folk.

To say it'll shut down T permanently is also a mis-statement bc many transexuals still experience varying T levels when on E. Those eventual Low T levels may not be enough for some mtf and that's why they opt for castration.

I can see how srs would benefit you but it would be detrimental for me.

My greatest fear is to turn into a princess when in reality I still want to act like a tough lady,

hang out with the boys, mix in my male and female apparel, Keep my haircuts short yet pixie styled.

I saw a biker chic the other day and I was like OMG that leather jacket is soo sweet. Its total kick ass. And those spiked boots (drooling)

Like does it make me female to still want to do supposedly rad stuff. Why is it that there's this assuption that a girl has to settle for stuff like hey....let's go shopping(I like that but not 24/7 crazy styled) or OMG let's go get ou manicures or better yet My little pony .....urghhhhhh

The best traits I like to combine are nerd, roadie, ironmaiden , starwars, furries(that shit is an art to make fursuits kk it's real hard and can be very girly ), well you get the idea.

NB: Also thanks River , Bob and Dave for introducing me to startrek. Its pretty decent. I'm getting the hang of it.

foxytaur (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:55 pm Im glad your coping with the sideeffects of E.

Eh... I'd like to say that I'm coping with them well, but I'm really not. I REALLY felt like crap today at work, for no adequately-explained reason, and this is unfortunately a very common thing nowadays. Also, my body image has gone straight down the toilet. There's days where I can hardly even stand to look at myself because I hate all of my masculine features so much, and want to be a girl so badly, but can't be. And E has only made these feelings worse, because now I feel much more like a girl in my head, but my body's not keeping up.

So again, this is why I am putting the warning out there. It can REALLY mess with your head. Even I, a fairly mentally-stable person, am having SERIOUS issues with myself on a varying basis. My brain is just not used to operating on these new hormones, and it honestly feels like I'm a teenager again, with almost no emotional control over myself. It's like a second puberty. The brain has to learn to operate on a whole new set of hormones. So it can be VERY rough when you're just starting out. In transsexuals, there are two key times when suicide rates are at their highest. The first is right after beginning HRT, and the second is right after SRS. Again, it's not something to take lightly. I'm having to SERIOUSLY watch myself, to make sure my occasional depressive episodes stay under control. When they come, I have to constantly remind myself "It's okay, these thoughts aren't really yours, it's just one of those hormonal mood swings talking. Just stay calm, and it will go away soon enough."

So yeah... again... it's serious stuff.

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Theres many more where that came from, I even sent you some before cheetaking, including some more roadie type one's that I cant find atm but ya know what I mean hehe

Whatever so long as I don't look like justin beiber all is good. I am not a belieber

I never took female or male hormones while intact so I can not help with how it would feel to take them while uncut. As a Eunuch heading for serious bone problems I can assure you that taking a mix of female hormones very quickly changes your entire mental sense of self. You begin to feel, think,and act like a woman and start to look like a woman and it is a whole new awakening. I liked the new me so much that I went the whole hog and had SRS. There are down sides to being a woman. There are places you would not walk at night where a man would not give it a second thought. Hair styling and cosmetics are expensive. clothes are less expensive generally but considering that I, or any woman, would never be seen in the same outfit twice means our expenses are greater. You begin to think on a more emotional level as against purely rationally as a male. High heels are torture devices but in dresses and skirts are a must have. And yes I find it much more difficult to slot my car car into a kerbside parking space. I seem to have difficulty computing the angles but thankfully have hit nothing yet. All in all I like the changes and am perfectly happy as a lady something as an intact man I never considered. Had I not been accidently castrated I would have missed out on the experience of being a totally impotent eunuch to being as close as possible to a natal woman so thank you horse, it turned out to be a happy accident.

Im not afraid of change, it'll take time getting use to however Ive been wondering how doctors cater to the genderqueer comunity. Like certainly I wouldn't be the only one who would pursue estrogen to reach my desired hybrid gender.

I'm expecting pro's and cons's btw. So it will be a challenge.

I'm just wondering how doctors treat people who are in between the lines.

I admitt I tend to be afraid of doctors reactions to the unorthodox.

This case being different hormone regiment mix ratios.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:34 pm Eh... I'd like to say that I'm coping with them well, but I'm really not. I REALLY felt like crap today at work, for no adequately-explained reason, and this is unfortunately a very common thing nowadays. Also, my body image has gone straight down the toilet. There's days where I can hardly even stand to look at myself because I hate all of my masculine features so much, and want to be a girl so badly, but can't be. And E has only made these feelings worse, because now I feel much more like a girl in my head, but my body's not keeping up.

So again, this is why I am putting the warning out there. It can REALLY mess with your head. Even I, a fairly mentally-stable person, am having SERIOUS issues with myself on a varying basis. My brain is just not used to operating on these new hormones, and it honestly feels like I'm a teenager again, with almost no emotional control over myself. It's like a second puberty. The brain has to learn to operate on a whole new set of hormones. So it can be VERY rough when you're just starting out. In transsexuals, there are two key times when suicide rates are at their highest. The first is right after beginning HRT, and the second is right after SRS. Again, it's not something to take lightly. I'm having to SERIOUSLY watch myself, to make sure my occasional depressive episodes stay under control. When they come, I have to constantly remind myself "It's okay, these thoughts aren't really yours, it's just one of those hormonal mood swings talking. Just stay calm, and it will go away soon enough."

So yeah... again... it's serious stuff.

My biggest pet peeve is anger management. I feel my anger will soar once on E.

I have bad temper tandrums already. And I think it'll be followed by crying afterwards.(cuz I never cry as a male, im pretty desensitized)

As far as suicide thoughts Ive never had them whether instinctively or logically.

I even view it as self defeat and a humiliating way to leave life knowing mother is talking illly behind you back.

I can't stand her and my inner anger is fully devouted towards her almost to the point of hatred.

No I'd never allow her to win so easily.

I want to be right this time.

Show her im not a screw up.

I can make it in this life as a bi gendered gal.

FUCK YOU MOM!!!

A lady who wasn't happy with her childhood bc she was dirt poor.

I understand she was brought up differently than me but for fucks sakes I hate when she brings up her

despair and drama towards everyone else in the house.

I know deep inside she knows Im queer but is trying very hard to effectively break me in and surrender my queer ways.

Ain't happening bitch.

I'm stronger than you. I won't let you surrender my youth bc your was pretty shallow aswell

That's life . DEAL WITH IT

This behaviour of mine is something that transcends anything hrt will subject me too.

If only you were to witness for yourself cheetaking the clash between mother and I.

You'd understand that unfortunately we will never get along.

EVER!!!

But you know what, I can live with that 150%

She one day said I hope I die right now.

I said = You sure you want that?

mom = Yes, I'm sick of life

me = Ha!!!

NB = I know this sounds awlful cheetaking but does it make me a bad person that I don't display remorse if she passed away. It sounds awlful to the core, especially bc she was the one who raised me and gave birth to me. But her disgusting person really taxes my sanity.