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Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:13 pm
by Cainanite (imported)
I've just seen the teaser trailer for this, and it has me very worried.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw

So far, the producers are keeping this movie very hushed up.

IMDB has this as the synopsis;

When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis. With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction. As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death, love will be challenged, friendships will be torn apart, and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.

The trailer makes it look like Khan is coming back. The smart money is on that character showing up, and waging war. The trailer even shows a pair of hands reaching for each other, separated by a plexiglass shield, just like Kirk and Spock did in "The Wrath of Khan".

I love the movie, Star Trek - The Wrath of Khan. It is very nearly a perfect film. It should not be touched. It is one of the few great movies ever made by the Star Trek franchise. If JJ Abrams chose to screw around with it, then I am pretty upset.

Even if this film has a 100% original character in it as the villain, the plot seems just like a rehash of the 2009 film. Just how many more "one man weapons of mass destruction" are there out there in the galaxy? Does it always have to be some sort of super-weapon that the crew has to stop? The old TV series was able to tell stories without the entire Earth being at threat of blowing up every damn adventure. Surely there is a more original premise they could come up with.

I may be one of only a handful of people who didn't like the 2009 Star Trek movie. To me, it wasn't a movie. It was a high budget fan film, trying too hard to justify its own existence. The only thing it accomplished was, in the end, to say this was all happening in an alternate dimension from the Star Trek we all know and love. It was a lot of pretty lights and colors, but very little in substance.

Am I the only one worried about this thing?

I suppose I could be pleasantly surprised... But I doubt it.

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:47 pm
by Dave (imported)
I see all of the speculation and I'm hoping that it is just speculation by the hard core STAR TREK buffs...

But then I believe in the Tooth Fairy too.

And as we all know, the Easter Bunny doesn't lay eggs in pastel hues...

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:49 pm
by Paolo
Given what we know about the franchise in this abominable rebooted timeline, who can Kirk be 'at war' with?

Unless we jump ahead in time, and he's already encountered Khan, which would be stupid, since Spock Prime should have told him to avoid the SS Botany Bay at all costs if they found it.

And the scene with a ship crashing into the bay?

I am with Cainanite on this one. I hated the new movie, and this one looks like a real turkey.

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:07 pm
by talula
Futuristic pizza delivery. That is all.

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:30 pm
by Paolo
OH, where there hell is Q when you really need him?!

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:06 pm
by Dave (imported)
BRing in "Q" and I'll never go to see the movie...

That character is a reason I think most of the late Star Trek was dreck and tripe and hack nonsense.

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:31 pm
by cheetaking243 (imported)
I must admit, it does look like an over-CGI'ed action-fest, geared toward mass audience appeal rather than quality film-making. I did like the reboot movie because of the characters, but I will admit that it was a bit too Star-Wars-y for my tastes. To me, Star Wars is the film franchise that is all about the rip-rollicking space-opera action, while Star Trek was always more sci-fi, tackling tough existential questions and having its characters investigate the tough situations of the universe. So I really did miss that aspect in the reboot film.

But hell, I'm still optimistic. Although it likely won't be the Star Trek that I know and love from the TV show and the original movies, I trust that it will at least be entertaining. JJ Abrams does have quite a knack for exciting action.

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:26 pm
by foxytaur (imported)
ok startrek was always well...I really don't know why I never got into it. Maybe I'll give it a try but where to start?.....I'm a heavy starwars fan but I have no idea why I ignored the trekkie fanclub. Maybe it's just too much to be a fan of everything. I say this cause I loved everything from Stargate SG1 to stargate atlantis, a little battlestar galactica, Lex,dune and especially farscape.

Shhh.....little secret......I had a crush on John Crichton at the time.

I need some help on where to start with startrek and how to view it sequentially story arc wise so I can get the most from it. I feel so ashamed

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:37 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
I would recommend you skip the original 1960's Star Trek, these were so bad and yes I was one who picketed to get them to run a third year. I guess I would say start with New Generation it ran 7 years I think start with year one, it does have a kind of an continuing story of sorts, then follow with the movies, skip Star Trek the Movie, lots of special effects and no story, then watch 2, 3, and 4. now 3 is not a great move however its a three set. Then skip to the undiscovered country and move on to generations, first contact and finish with the last movie, that should just about leave you a Trekkie for life or you will never want to see it again, ever.

I am sure others will have a different view, you could add the next to last New Generation film, can't remember the name of it, but really don't waist your time with the original series, you will only be disappointed.

Finally see the newest Star Trek movie, it has all the original people in new bodies, except of course Spock who plays two parts. It may be the best one of the bunch and the good thing about it, its a reboot from there they can go where they have never gone before.

As for another new star trek movie, hell yes I am all for watching it at least once. WOOT WOOT.

River

Re: Star Trek - Into Darkness

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:01 pm
by Cainanite (imported)
I would say to certainly watch the Original Star Trek series first. It only went three seasons, and it set the stage for almost all sci-fi TV to come. Stargate and Atlantis borrowed heavily from the original series of Star Trek.

You can certainly watch Star Trek the Next Generation, but feel free to skip the Next Generation movies. They all sucked. Very badly.

For the Star Trek Movies, Watch The Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, Voyage Home, and Undiscovered Country. Out of ten or so movies, those are the only ones that really count.

If you end up liking the original Star Trek series, then you should check out a web series called Phase II. It continues the original series from where it left off, but it takes forever for them to come out with new episodes.

You can easily skip Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Star Trek Voyager, and Enterprise. None of those have anything to do with the new movies. I personally really enjoyed Voyager, but I am one of very few people that did. Most people hate it, and I fully understand why they did.

If you watch absolutely no other movies, or TV episodes, then watch Star Trek - The Wrath of Khan, and Star Trek - The Undiscovered Country. By far, they are the best of the bunch.