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License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:53 am
by Arab Nights (imported)
I thought this was an interesting article on page 1 of Dave’s favorite publication, the Wall Street Journal (Sept 29-30).

I had read in the Arizona Republic that the Phoenix Police had a new technology in a couple of places on the freeway system in Phoenix which passively read passing license plates and then would notify the cops if one went by that was wanted. It apparently worked pretty slick. As soon as a car was stolen, the license plate was entered in the system and several had been nabbed that way. Ditto a child abduction, etc. Any crime where a car is a get-away tool.

As the cost of everything digital is falling, the use of that technology is expanding super rapidly.

During the last five years, the Department of Homeland Security has distributed over $50 million for automated license plate reading systems. The recipients range from Los Angeles to Crisp County, GA. The WSJ obtained two years’ worth of plate information from the Riverside County Sheriff’s Dept., which has 49 plate scanning cameras. Two million license plates were scanned. One estimate is that 37% of city police departments now use the readers.

If the police were to put a GPS on your car, they would have to get a court order. There is no court order needed to scan your plates on the street. Nor is there any kind of restriction on how long they can store the data. One legislator wanted to put a two year limit on storing the data, but law enforcement pushed back for eternal storage. There has been the occasional case of misuse. One lieutenant in Washington DC pleaded guilty to extortion for scanning plates around a gay bar and then blackmailing the owners.

The technology has gotten so cheap (down to $15,000 installed per vehicle) that you now see private business using it. One repo company doubled their daily take of cars (was 6 and now is 15 per day) by trolling thru apartment parking lots, etc. and scanning license plates. They are looking at the commercial possibilities of a selling access to a private data base. One business owner was quoted as saying, “I take absolute exception to any government telling me that I cannot go into public and take video. That’s taking my freedoms away.“ He says that his company has snapped hundreds of millions of plates nationwide. His words speak more eloquently than I ever could about the depth of his moral fiber and the width of his intelligence.

As Col. Lisa Shay, a professor at West Point, was more pointed, “We don’t have a police state in this country, but we have the technology.”

Personally, I can remember when I was about twenty reading that the feds were absolutely reassuring people not to worry about getting a social security number because it would never, ever, ever be used for identification, only as an account number like you have at the bank. Funny how evolving technology makes a lie of assurances.

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:48 pm
by moi621 (imported)
There was a Spray On available for license plates that created such reflectivity as to nullify plate cameras.

Gotta go get me some

Moi

FREEDOM

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Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:55 pm
by Dave (imported)
Plus $15.85 shipping...

I'll bet its the stuff that also used to reflect radar from the back of cars so you couldn't get caught driving too fast.

Or the license plate cover with the LED's that dazzle radar and cameras.

Or the cover that is polarized to reflect light away from he traffic cameras.

Do you know that if you put dimple or pucker marks all over your car like a golf ball that you will get better mileage. The saving in money is only offset by the fact that everyone will call you "Dimples" from that point on... It could be worse, they could call you "pucker" ...

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:19 pm
by curious_guy (imported)
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:48 pm There was a Spray On available for license plates that created such reflectivity as to nullify plate cameras.

MythBusters challenged all of those sprays and none of them worked.

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:14 pm
by Sweetpickle (imported)
The Philadelphia Parking Authority has a reality show on TV, apparently

they use plate recognition to look for cars to boot.

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:57 pm
by Dave (imported)
It's called PARKING WARS and yes, they photograph meter maids and meter men, people who boot cars, tows, people arguing at tow yards that they shouldn't pay, etc... I really get desperately bad insomnia some nights and anything that might put me to sleep...

And yes, I didn't remember that it was Philly bt there was a scanner that read license plates as they drove the streets and the computer in the person's lap turned red and showed the violations involved.

Lots of bad language getting bleeped out of those shows.

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:14 pm
by Paolo
Things like this just go to show you how much a totalitarian police-state regime the USSA is becoming.

It's time for technology to roll back to 1997, with the death penalty for anything more advanced.

Come to think of it, I like technology better back then, even if I did have to reboot Win98 about 27 times a day.

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:43 pm
by USA-Travler (imported)
I was in Dallas in late July and my Harley was stolen. I think I left the keys in it after returning late from the Dallas Eagle. Next morning I had to report it gone and it was logged in at 11am. I got a call a week later that it was recovered! When I picked it up at the huge impound yard I found that they had it in the impound yard at 4:30 the afternoon it was taken. Turns out they have a bad problem with illegals driving without license, registration & insurance in the Dallas area and they found a solution. They have license plate cams in all the cars. Then they ride the streets once each day and Presto! Any vehicle not insured or licensed or stolen gets towed! The impound lots are running over! Of course, I was delighted!

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:07 pm
by transward (imported)
What scares me is to extrapolate just a bit. Take this technology, add to it the fact that "facial recognition" software is near to being able to do the same thing with our faces (plus the French ban on facial coverings) and the acceptance of surveillance cameras of public areas, plus locators in our cell phones' and the very concept of privacy in public becomes impossible. "They" could know exactly where you are and where you are going and what you are doing an who you are meeting every time you stepped outside your home.

Transward

Re: License Plate Reader Technology

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:14 pm
by moi621 (imported)
transward (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:07 pm What scares me is to extrapolate just a bit. Take this technology, add to it the fact that "facial recognition" software is near to being able to do the same thing with our faces (plus the French ban on facial coverings) and the acceptance of surveillance cameras of public areas, plus locators in our cell phones' and the very concept of privacy in public becomes impossible. "They" could know exactly where you are and where you are going and what you are doing an who you are meeting every time you stepped outside your home.

Transward

They already know.

Moi